Sheree 0:00
Welcome back to another incredible episode of The Wild and wild collective. We have a dear friend of both kristas and mine on the podcast today. It's been a long time coming that we've been able to have you on here. Sam. I am so so excited. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you
Speaker 1 0:18
for the invite. I can't wait to see where the conversation goes. We were talking
Sheree 0:22
a little bit beforehand around the intention and the intention of the podcast, and just the woman that we're calling into the space. And one of the things I just adore about you is how heart led you are, and everything you do really does tie in, not just mind, body, soul, but this beautiful, heart centered space. Can you share a little bit about yourself and your journey? Because you've been through so much, your story is so inspiring, and how you really got to operating from such an incredible space?
Speaker 1 0:52
Yeah, thank you. And I'm so glad that we're leading with this question. So thank you for that, because for me, nothing is more important or nothing is more of a priority than anything that lives in the heart. Like truly, I think, in a world where so many people are driven by the minds like to be somebody, to actually sink in and move from that place like it really does make a difference. And I'd love to share a bit of my story, because I haven't always been this way. Long story short, my late teens, early 20s were extremely challenging. I went through a number of things that, you know, people can relate to my parents, so we went through a very bad divorce. I was confused with my place in the world. I didn't know what I wanted to do. There was so much pressure from society, like what you want to do when you want to do when you grow up, where you're going to university, what you're doing with school, drama, with boyfriends. You know, other things that happen, sexual assaults. Like there was a period between five years where, literally, no matter what it was I was going through, it's like, I'd stand back up and life would punch me back down, and I'd stand back up and life would punch me back down, and I'd stand back up and like would punch me back down. And I have so much compassion for teenagers and women in their 20s now, because I can't even imagine how that must have, how that would have felt amplified by the pressure of social media and the comparison that they have to navigate these days. But for me, like I said, those five years were almost like I was in a dark room, like no matter where I would go, it's like I couldn't find the switch. But eventually, at around 22 years old, I got enough personal strength to be able to realize what I needed to do to pull myself out of that place. And I really looked at societal standards. I saw, okay, you know, get a really good job, you know, get into a relationship, build a home, and I started to build my life in that way, one block at a time. That was amazing, in a sense, because it was really the stepping stones that I needed to get out of that like period that was really, really, really challenging. But at the same time, when I was 27 years old, I had reached a point I was in real estate at that point where I was the number one in my game, like I had been so motivated and driven from like that place within that I built that I built that I built that I built that I built and when I was 27 I looked around and I thought, I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do. I'm checking all of society's boxes. I had a beautiful home, super successful career, long term relationship, and everybody on the outside told me how lucky I was and how happy I should be, yet when I was honest with myself and I was quiet, alone with my thoughts, I just had this inner angst that would usually creep up because I was in a cycle of workaholism, I would say, like, I just threw myself into work. I was a high achiever. I get things done. I was closing deal like I was the boss babe, like, boom, boom, boom. But it was when I'd be sleeping at night, before I'd go to bed, that all of the emotions and all of the thoughts and all of the anxieties would come in, and they would essentially haunt me. And every single night, I just, you know, rolled over, toss and turn, and then woke up and I did the whole thing again, and woke up and woke up and I did the whole thing. And I woke up and I did the whole thing again. And then one day, after about a year of going through this internal struggle, this cycle, I was driving in my car, and between real estate appointments, and when we're driving, sometimes you get into this state where you're in flow, you're not paying attention, you're zoned out. We all know that feeling, and all of a sudden, out of the blue, I had this voice that I internally heard, like it was like this, this feeling, and I actually heard this voice, I didn't know, but it was a spiritual awakening, and it said, Your life isn't fun, and your life's supposed to be fun. You're 27 years old. Do you really want to. Live your rest of your life like this. Is this how you want to live your life? And it was a punch to my gut, because I knew the answer was no. But it was also very scary, because to walk away from what I built, I had the fear of going back to where I was, and that being on that edge of things was like, it was terrifying. But what I will say about that. And with anybody who was like, you know that voice, and we've all experienced it at different points in our journeys, it comes from a place that is so anchored in your being and is so unshakable, like there is a frequency of truth, and when you hear it, it's just like steadfast. So luckily for me, looking back, I had the courage to step away from what I know. I went through a breakup, I took a sabbatical from work, and I booked a one way solo ticket to Thailand, because I had no idea what I wanted, but I knew there was a whole world out there, and I knew I was had enough within me to want to figure it out. And that first trip was terrifying for me, because I'd never been to Asia, never backpacked alone, never traveled alone, even, and I didn't even book a hotel, like literally just showed up. And I'm like, life, show me adventure. And long story short, that first trip led to the traveling to the next, the next, the next. I traveled to over 80 countries, a lot of them on my own, and through that process of blinging myself in the world and immersing myself in life, I really allowed myself to learn from the unknown, to push my edges, to learn about the outside world, but more importantly, you know, really get to know my world within. And since then, that was 10 years ago, there's been so many other fluctuations and so many other journeys of those edges and those moments and those dark nights of the souls and those moments of confusion. But I've found, with certainty, that every single time that I've had the courage to listen to the whispers of my heart and to open up the space in my body, it has always led me to the most incredible people, places, experiences, opportunities, and I can truly say, like with total confidence, that the baseline of my happiness, of where I am now, it is, like ecstatic on the daily. And I'm like, This is life. Like, I had no idea that life could be this beautiful. And so I really do stand and speak as someone who's gone through that journey within and come out the other side singing the praises of the heart and singing the praises that like, if you are getting a little voice, a whisper or something inside, I promise you listen to it, because your life will blossom in the most incredible ways.
Christa 7:36
I think it's really cool that you were able to tap into that, especially in your 20s. I think from what you're talking just your expression of, hey, I threw myself into work like, obviously, you are a high achiever. Most of the people listening to this are high achievers, and can relate. And I think it's somewhat of a challenge as a high achiever, coming from my own perspective now to pause long enough to stop and really go internal, because it you their comfort zone is in achieving the comfort zone is in keeping yourself safe emotionally and in my own experience, I have found that going inward kind of felt vulnerable, even within myself, like pausing long enough to just say, Oh, maybe I'll, God forbid, quit a job to go do nothing. I mean, that just sounds like absolute tyranny in within, you know, like, what am I doing? So, you know, and especially at 27 where I feel like that's kind of the prime where people are, like trying to prove themselves, and the ego is maybe potentially the largest it's going to be like proving yourself and protecting yourself and all of the things. So I find that timeline, and I find that like, automatic surrender, to be really intriguing and fascinating. Do you feel like there had been some exploration beforehand. I mean, how did you surrender? I guess I should say to that whisper and allow it to sort of really guide you, and just let go of going from the workaholic to, let's give up everything and just like Gallivan the world, which is amazing, right? But oftentimes, I think we put ourselves in these boxes of like, Absolutely not. I can't do this because it's too much of a free fall, and therefore I don't feel safe.
Speaker 1 9:27
Well, the funny things is that with this question, had I known what my journey was going to be, and had I known, let's say, even traveling 80 countries, if I would have got that detail before, if life would have whispered to me and said, Oh, by the way, this is what's coming, I would have been so frozen in fear, and there would have been no way that I would have taken that first leap, in all honesty, like, as amazing as it sounds, that big question of how, like from where I was, would have completely. Completely blocked me, completely felt. It froze me in fear. And I think like that really is the key to this, is that you actually don't have to know the how. You actually don't have to know what you're going to go through. What you have to know is like, what is your body? What is your soul? What is your heart saying right now? What is your next step, and then explore, you know, with that next step, or with that poll, or what you're being guided to, you know, like, what is the best move for you with the information that you have? And for me, you know, really came from a place where it was brewing for, like I said, about a year, where I'd be tossing and turning, and it literally felt like I was wearing the wrong life. It's like I had this costume on, and it was my life, like it was, like I was I could see the road of my life, of decades to go. And I think the pain of staying in that, knowing that it wasn't what I was meant to be doing, was the catalyst to just bring on that moment and have it. So I didn't look back. But you know one thing, or that I think is important. And for anybody who's, you know, at an edge, the two most important things that you want to know is who you are, when you do it, and why you're doing it. So if you can connect to the who, and if you can, you know, motivate it by the why, that is enough. You don't need to know the what. You don't need to know the how. And I think even as business you know business owners, I bet you guys can relate, like, when you started your business, oftentimes you jump in and, you know, or so excited, and you're in this, and then all of a sudden, the realities of entrepreneurship and the roller coasters of the emotions and the good days, the hard days, the struggles. It's like, you have moments where you're like, if I knew it was going to be this hard at the beginning, I probably wouldn't have done it. But at the same flip of the coin, I'm so happy that I did.
Sheree 11:51
I'm super curious, because I think there's like that analysis paralysis that you mentioned, where and I know, like, oh my gosh, if I hadn't known what was going to happen, or if I hadn't known the how, or if I hadn't owned the what, it might have actually paused me or made me go in a completely different path, or maybe stay stuck in the life that I was really unhappy in. And so on the flip side of that, it's like, what about when you have the bigness of the dreams, when you know deep within, I know you speak a lot about finding your purpose and living your purpose and I'm in alignment with your purpose. It's like, I know I've got these huge dreams, I've got these massive things I want to achieve, and that also can then cause that. It's like, oh, if I didn't know that, and like, oh, it was a beautiful surprise. I got to visit like, 80 different countries that made it easier for you to leave. What about when you're on the other side, when you know what, like, you want to achieve when you know the bigness of the goals that you have, but you're stuck in that fear and you're struggling to find that trust. Like, what do you really do? Like, what are some advice for our listeners if they're feeling like they're kind of stuck in that so
Speaker 1 12:53
for me, I would say that it's not like the woman that I've become in this journey over the past decade. It's all of those little leaps. It's like that first leap of faith, taking that next step literally gave me the strength for the next and the next. And now, if I was faced like with who I am today, if I was faced with that same predicament, that the same fork in the road, it's like decision done and diamo packed our bags. Let's go. So it really is about the journey. And if you can surrender and attach to like, just dream up again who you want to be in the world. What are your values? What do you want to stand for? You know? What would you love to experience and then come from a place that's more playful? I think that would really help, but that journey that we're talking about taking the leaps into the unknown, every single leap you take every single time, guaranteed you're on an edge and you're willing to have the courage to jump into the unknown, you will learn so much about yourself, and it's almost like you will peel off a layer of who you're not, one of the masks, one of the blocks, one of the stories that probably isn't even yours, you know, will just melt away. And through that process, you know you're going to develop such a deep confidence in who you are in the world, and your place will be set. And so for me now, at 3710 years later, I feel eternally blessed that at this point, when I move through my days, it's like, I know my place, I know my worth, I know what I have to offer. And from that place of like, deep knowing and connection within, it's just like, anything's possible. Let's play. Let's have fun, but you've got to go through the process. It's not like, here Sheree take a pill and it's gonna, you know, magically happen, because then you're not going to be able to go through that journey of really coming back to you so
Sheree 14:43
taking the small steps and being willing to take the little leaps. And I'm also hearing massively like, come back to who you are, who you want to be, and how you want to show up in
Speaker 1 14:53
the world. And when it comes to that, it's like identity work, you know, questioning. Because oftentimes. Go through our life and we think we're a certain way. It's like, I've had so many conversations with people where they identify as, Oh well, I'm shy, or, well, I'm this, or, Oh well, I'm that. It's like, are you really or at some point were you boxed in? Like, it's like, when did you put on that costume? When did you put on that identity? And how does it feel to live there, like, are you willing to maybe take it off? Are you willing to try to be, you know, social, like, over shy? Are you willing to play with different energies to see who you truly are? But you've got to be willing to test it out. That's the only way through. Yeah. I
Christa 15:34
mean, it's like jumping off a cliff. I mean, no one can do it for you, but you've got to be willing to say, Okay, this might feel uncomfortable, but in the end, it's probably going to work out great. I mean, because if we truly have the foundation in our minds and the way of thinking that life is always working in my favor, life is not happening to me. It's always happening for me, as long as we're not you know that we're making the best decision that we know how at that time? Yeah, it is. It is a trust fall, though. And the thing is, it never stops. You just learn to trust the process of it a little bit. It's never just like, okay, nothing bothers me. It's fine. I'm never triggered, you know, especially running your own business and things like that. But it's just, it's a daily practice of good days, bad days, whatever. Sometimes you have to flex that muscle a little more, but it's becoming you hear that all the time, becoming comfortable with being uncomfortable. But it really is true. It's like, okay, great. Here's another scenario, another cross, another fork in the road, another decision. And the more you step into it, it does get not easy. It never is easy, but the trust fall is a little bit there in grout city totally, and
Speaker 1 16:46
it gets a lot easier. Like, I think we all have different experiences, but our internal worlds are everything, and it's such an intimate process. So I just feel it's like, why not? Like we are the youngest we will ever be. Like, right now you are listening to this show you are the youngest you will ever be like allow yourself to go in, allow yourself to take chances on yourself, allow yourself to entangle with the unknown. And you know, see what could be there, what gifts of your potential could be explored, you know. And I think that's the beauty of life, is that at any point, literally at any point, a miracle can happen at any point. You know, there could be a plot twist in the most beautiful way, but you know, you've got to be willing to, kind of to play with that. It's
Sheree 17:30
so inspiring whenever I think of you. And for those of you who haven't like, who don't know who Sam is, and please get into her world, I like, always go to your page for inspiration, or always go to your page to see what you're up to, if we're not in conversation all the time. And it just amazes me the way you show up in the world and the curiosity that you bring. And what if this is possible, and what if that is possible? And people talk about manifestation, and like you say, a lot of people look in from the outside, even back when you were 27 Oh, you're so lucky. Oh, you're so lucky. And since that, and like in the last, you know, five years that we've known each other, I've seen the amount of things that just come into your world, and it's not because they fall into your lap, and it's like, Sam's just blessed, and that's how it is. It's because you've done this inner work. It's because you've been prepared to do the depth. And then you're also operating from your own sense of power, your sense of self worth. You are one of the most beautifully feminine women that I know, and you exude this incredible confidence, but I know that would have taken a lot of courage to get there. And I know that one of the things that you love sharing on is having the courage to really start over and start anew. And I know, again, like you've actually helped me personally with that. There's been a number of times that I've come up to that kind of like, block against the wall, block against the wall. Do I do it? Do I not? Do I take that risk? And it's one of your superpowers, in my opinion. So I'm wondering if you can share a little bit about the courage it takes us out over and how you get to that level of confidence to do. So, yeah.
Speaker 1 19:02
So one thing I'll say is that I found that different seasons of our life will shift at different points. So the first thing I would suggest is just like, look and see what area of your life is potentially looking to be shifted at this point. Is there a career move? Is it something relationship? Is it something health wise? Is it something financial? You know, it doesn't all have to happen at the same time, but look and see, like, what theme is most alive. So really, like honoring what is present for you in your life. One of my philosophies that I'm so set on is that life is the teacher, and you guys, almost, we work as guides. So life, like, if you are listening to this life is giving you the clearest mirror of your exact pathway to happiness, to freedom, to fulfillment, to everything that you want. But you've got to be willing to look at the mirror and say, like, Okay, what is it showing me? What are my triggers? What is coming up? What's uncomfortable? What are the things that are pulling. Me back, what is looking to be shifted, and you've got to be able to have an honest conversation with yourself. Like, really, it's a you and you thing to say, like, you know, there's been so many things in my life where, career wise, you know, I ended up walking away from real estate. So there was a point where I was making well over six figures, traveling around the world, working on average, maybe five months a year. I had time, I had money, I had freedom, I had success, literally based on societal standards. It all get inside. I knew purpose wise, I had so much more to give. And could I stay complacent going down that path? Absolutely. But at the end of the day, that feeling within of not honoring my full potential, it kind of that little whisper, again, started as a like a hunch or a whisper. It got louder, it got louder, it got louder, and then it was like screaming. And I'm like, I can't do this, so I burnt the boat with real estate. Took the leap into coaching and went all in on that. But, you know, there was a bit of a transition period, and it was something that on the outside, people wouldn't really know how much like that inner dialog was speaking to me again, like, even relationship wise, like I've walked away from, you know, great relationships, but they weren't really it. And at the end of the day, I knew, and it's so funny, any of my girlfriends, I was literally just talking about it earlier this week, who've gone through breakups, they always said the same thing. They knew, you know, early in the relationship, that it wasn't actually it, but it took a lot of courage after you build the chemistry, have the connection, build a life together. You have your vision together, but to actually have that courage to trust that whisper within your heart and your soul and walk away from it. Is it hard Absolutely, or was it hard Absolutely? But for me, what would have been a million times harder, hands down, zero questions asked would have been staying in a circumstance and situation that I knew deep down wasn't where I was meant to be. And I think this is where it's really important to create space to listen to your own inner voice, your own inner whisper, because the people around you, they love you, and whatever season you're navigating through, you know they're going to share what they can see, but oftentimes, you know they can come with projections. So you know they'll share their own fears. So they'll share their own stuff. So you've got to be able to, like, literally, quiet out the outside world, get to know yourself that intimately, and just trust that, like, if there's that again, that the frequency of truth is the strongest frequency of the world. It's unshakable, and you know, so but it can be very scary. But you know, if you're willing to I'm 37 I went through that breakup three years ago. Technically, I've been single for the past three years, and I have absolutely loved this season of life, getting to date, meeting men, being courted, like I have met so many kings, and I'm just like, Oh my God, who knew? Like, I would have missed out on this. And then I hear the narrative of so many other women in their 30s talking about their dating experience. And whenever I'm in those conversations, I just, I don't say anything. I wait, because I'm just like, and I listen and I hear everything. And typically, someone will kind of look to me and say, Sam, you've been single for a while. Like, what about you? What do you think? And I just look at them and I say, I heard everything you say, I'm like, but not in my reality. And they look at me like, What I'm so playful about? I'm like, I said, I don't know. I said, I'm like, I unsubscribe from this narrative. Like, this is not true. Like, I have experienced the complete opposite, and I refuse to buy into this conversation with all due respect, and even that, because it's the frequency of my truth, it doesn't even trigger these ladies. They're like, Huh? What? What are you saying? Tell me more. I want this vibe. I'm like, Yeah. Let me tell you, ladies, what's up? Pull up a seat at the table. Let me tell you what I've learned in the past three years of going on this, you know, dating journey, and it's been, it's been incredible. But again, it starts with your mindset. It starts with your narrative. It starts with the conversations that you're plugging into. So be very mindful of what you're listening to. So I mean, if you're here, good job, because you're listening to an elevated conversation, but like, you gotta protect your peace, because nobody else will do it for you.
Christa 24:25
Yeah, I think it's really empowering actually, to think we create our own reality. And you know, if you look around and you hate where you're living and you hate the people you're hanging out with, and you hate your job, these are all decisions, that for the most part, we have some as an adult, you have some control over right like you have control over your environment. And I think when you start to believe that, like I had mentioned before, life is working in your favor, and that we do have so much power within us to create. And anything we want and to tap into. That's where the magic starts to unfold, trusting, believing. I have little timers set on my phone throughout the little alarms, and you know, you can put like a narrative with the alarm, so it goes off different times a day, and it says different things to me, just to remind me of who my higher self is my highest self, is positive, she's grateful, she's creative. And I think sometimes we can very easily fall back into, like you mentioned before, like the box family tends to keep us we're in that box because that's all they know too well for them, for you to be a certain way, oh, she's always so bossy, or She's so shy, or she's so whatever, and like you said, it's not our own oftentimes, who how we perceive ourselves until we really tune into ourselves. But to break that habit of being yourself, as Joe Dispenza would say, you have to remind yourself who you really feel like your highest version is. If you could imagine who the my perfect self would work out every day, and I would think positively and whatever it is for you, but when you and you trust and you would take bigger risks, that really is yourself, right? And I think the challenge then is to shift that pattern of thinking. And so for me, personally, I that's just something that I've been doing over the past six or seven months now is just setting alarms that say different things to me, and it really does it really does help remind me throughout the day, remember who you are, remember what you're capable of, remember that you don't have to walk in fear. Remember that you're creating your own reality. And when you make a habit of that, I think you really do start to see the plot twists. You start to see like, what the heck? How in the world did this happen? And the other cool thing I think about the way life unfolds for us is it's not always exactly the way you want it to go, but when you arrive and you realize this is what I was asking for, even if it doesn't look exactly the same as you envision, it feels the way you had wanted to feel. And Jen Sincero has this in one of her books. I can't remember which one when I read it, but she talks about how you might think you want this man that's tall, he's dark, he's got blue eyes, he's got a little bit of scruff. He's wearing a suit, and you look over at the bar, and it's actually a guy in a biker suit with a long ass beard and tattoos. But that's who your soul wants. And so it's the feeling, it's the they don't always the or what we manifest, or what we want doesn't always come in the exact package that you think it's going to come in. But when it's there, you know it. And I think also to not be closed off to that fact, don't be closed off just because it doesn't look exactly, is it, though, what you asked for? And I think sometimes we can walk away from blessings, or we can walk away from little miracles, because we're like, well, that's not exactly how I wanted it. And that's it's being more aware all in general, I think,
Speaker 1 27:51
totally. And one thing to say is that you don't even have to hate where you are. You don't have to hate your life. And that's the cool thing about is when you become even more nuanced, when you start living this way, and you start honoring your soul, when you start connecting with your body and being in tune in the moment of like, the shifts as they're happening, like right now, like my intuition, I say, I experience the world with my eyes closed. Like, literally everything that I'm taking in is being filtered in my body. It's going through my intuition, and it feels so refined. You know, sometimes you get to a point like 10, I got to a point where there was a lot more pressure, there were a lot more things that needed to be changed, whereas now it's like, almost like these micro tweaks. It's like a little tweak there, a little tweak there, a little honoring there, something there. So life could even just be good. And that's where a lot of people get stuck, because it's like they get stuck in complacency, in a way, and that also can be a bit of a trap, like you don't have to be to the point where it's like you're suffering so much that there's a catalyst for change. You could literally be at a point where you're like, something feels off, you know, I feel a little bit disconnected. And if you can start picking up those nuances and opening up that channel, you're going to save yourself a lot of that suffering. You know, it all comes from the mind, body, heart, soul alignment. Like, if you can get in this place where those four are operating in succinct you're winning at life, and the way that life will blossom for you, like the most extraordinary things, mark my words, the most extraordinary things will just start happening to you because you're worthy. Like period, you just you know your worth, and you're like, I am the girl where Amazing things happen. And that energy, that vibe, becomes a compound. And I think,
Sheree 29:28
you know, one thing that we keep coming back to, that you keep tuning into, is like that internal voice. And I know, like some people refer to that as your intuition, some people might refer to it as your higher self. Like we all have different names. I interchange it all. And I think something that I noticed, particularly with women and with men, there seems to be a confidence that a lot of them do exude naturally, like their ego comes through their confidence. Take the next step, and they're like, this is what I'm doing, and it's from a very logical space. Whereas there's a lot of the women that I find that I work with, it's like they're. Intuition, they have been shut down, or they've been told no, or they've been told like to play it small, or that they're too much and or not enough. And so it's like you get this beautiful woman who has so much to offer the world, and she is just so shrunk, so small, her confidence and her self esteem and it's just been diminished over the years, whether that's from relationships, whether that's from how she's treated or seen herself, whether that's from being put in a box and then buying into those narratives or those stories. And so I love what you bring in, because it's like, okay, we're going to look at the mind. We're going to look at the stories that we say we're also and this is a big part of, obviously, what Krista and I do, we look at the body, but there's the element of looking at the body from the somatic perspective. What are we holding on to physically that may manifest as disease in the body, but also that's blocking us from taking that next step. On the other side, we can also tune into and feel the intuition. You know, when I think of my intuitive self, it's in my gut. If it feels right in my gut, I know that's that frequency of truth that you're talking about. And so for someone that has had years like I've got a client in mind right now, and you see it, you can witness it as a coach from the outside, and we're chipping away the layers there, but she's been so berated and so pulled down, and she's had so many things like you talked about that five year period of your life that she'd shut off her intuition. She'd shut off that part of herself that was actually feeling like she could listen. How do you begin the process with your clients. I know you do something called Soul surgery, but like, if someone's sitting here listening right now, going, that's me, or I don't even know, do I have an intuition? And yes, yes, you do. But like, I don't even know how to tap into that anymore, or I don't even know where to begin. Like, what is one thing that you could give our listeners right now to really help them connect again.
Speaker 1 32:02
Love that you brought up the body, because I do feel that the body is the easiest gateway to access that and your intuition, especially as a woman, there is nothing like an embodied woman. And when you open up that channel, like, let's say, for example, this woman who's listening, she feels like she is pretty much in that dark room. The beautiful thing about life, and this is like guaranteed that like it can never be completely diminished 100% so even if you feel like it is 99.9999 dark, I guarantee you there is that point 0001, flick, glimmer of a light within you. And we just have to find that so depending on because it's so personal to each person, one of the things that I actually encourage my clients to do, but in a safe way, where you're guided with a coach, and we can go in there, is I actually encourage judgments. I feel like in a way, you know, we're told to be good girls. We're told not to judge. We're told to be proper. We're told to keep it, you know, keep quiet. We're told not to be too much. There's so many things that we're told to do. It's like you. If you listen to that narrative of society, it's like you. You literally can't get it right. So the quickest way to your freedom is actually in a safe place. Allow yourself to judge whatever it is feels the most alive and active in your life. So whether it is like judgments against your body, like allow yourself to go and say, you know, and I'll hold space with clients and be like or against their relationship or against where they are, like, whatever it is that's kind of in the background there, I hold a safe space and say, like, let's go into it and judge, judge, judge, Judge, just to actually honor it and get it out so that there's some breathing room you can breathe. And then you can look at those things and you can say, Okay, this is the belief I'm going to work on or this is the gateway that feels like this could be a step, you know, to finding that light. I feel that our triggers and our judgments hold so much information to where our biggest blocks lie, yet it can be uncomfortable to kind of go in there and do it, and it's unconventional, you know, like I said, with all those narratives of being a good girl. It's like, we don't judge. Just stay quiet, sit in the corner, be polite, you know. So to actually have that space to go into and get curious and then release some of what you're holding, like I said, there's freedom will start to come, and you'll start unpacking, like the heaviness that's in your body. And once you get sense of it, a taste of it, like a feel for it, you're going to be craving more. It's almost an analogy is like, it's almost like you've been living underwater, but you don't even realize that you're underwater until you actually get out, and you get a gasp of air, and you're like, Oh my gosh. And then you get go back down. You're like, I don't want to do this anymore. And, you know, you develop the strength to actually get yourself out of there. There. It's just, yeah, once you get air, you're like, where is that air? Where is that 1% where is that light? And then, you know, you start chipping away at whatever it is that you're holding. I
Christa 35:09
think we're really good at ignoring and lying to ourselves. And humans are creatures of habit. We don't like anything different, even if different is actually better for us. And so I think that that is challenging for people to face the anxiety, face their own personal judgment, face being honest with themselves, of like, I'm not happy here, like just being honest with it, instead of trying to suppress it. You know, I see, I integrate a lot of this kind of work with my patients, even just from a physical standpoint, when we hold a lot of anxiety, a lot of depression, that does manifest in the form of hypertension and overeating and all sorts of things, disease right in the body. And so I think it's important to to address all mind, body, spirit together so that we can, you know, all of them affect all of it affects each other, and it's a new concept for a lot of people. Of I want you to just ask the anxiety. Quit trying to get rid of the anxiety about the next move, about your marriage, about whatever's happening right now. Quit trying to get rid of the anxiety. Let's actually just sit with the anxiety and ask, What do you want to say? And it's so fascinating. What will come out of that, like the example that you said about judgment, just go ahead, say the words, judge yourself and then see what comes up from that. But we spend a lot of time avoiding and suppressing and wanting something to be different than the way that it is when it's just sit with it and just And amazingly, when you sit with things, you actually get resolution. Anxiety doesn't stay as long. Depression doesn't stay as long. You that a part of you is seen, it's heard, and you can work with that. And I think that's a foreign concept for some people, but it really is quite simple. You just have to, like you said, hold space for them, be create kind of a safe area. We were guiding them through this very unknown way to deal with something that they don't want to have, and yet they it just keeps tagging along, you know?
Speaker 1 37:11
And what I love, what you said that, because you said unknown, and that's really what it is. So the leaps that we were talking about earlier, of taking those leaps to make changes and shifts, you see, like this is also, it's like navigating the unknown of your way of being. It's the same conversation, different concept, you know, and in your willingness to be curious about what could potentially be on the other side, it's like, that is like what it takes. And I love that you brought up, you know, anxiety. I like to actually, for me, it's like, anxiety is my friend. I've literally got to a point. I'm like, what if anxiety was your friend? And it's sort of there, tapping you on your shoulder, or shaking you or trying to get your attention. And, you know, but you just haven't been dialed in to be able to listen to it. You know, when you sit with it, you get the wisdom. It's like, oh my gosh, thank you. Like, you know, you've been trying to support me, you've been trying to help me. Like, and when you learn how to implement those tools in your life, and I say, learn how to implement these tools, because these things, it's not like, 10 years ago, I didn't know how to do all of these things. You know, they came through a series of decisions, of me investing in myself and learning and putting these things together. And, you know, we all met in a program, like, it's like, because we value this, so there are absolutely 100% pools out there that can help like, I want to say anybody, because I'm speaking from that dark room, like, from knowing that place and knowing how incredibly challenging life had been. It's like, I actually believe this is possible for anyone, but it's up to them to go, to seek the tools, to invest in themselves, to listen, you know, even listen to like the right conversations, to be able to pull yourself out and gain the perspective to move through in a way that's going to serve your future. Highest, best, beautiful, most radiant, lovable, kind self like that's truly who you are, your love, period. Everything else is an illusion, and you know, and the more that we can embody that, the more that you know that I'm telling you it is the superpower of a woman, an embodied woman, who is connected to her emotions and connected to her body like it's everything,
Sheree 39:25
just such a beautiful energy. Sam, and I love that you, I guess, rounded us out with that, because it is really coming home to that love and that truth and that embodiment. And I see that in how you show up and lead by example every single day, how you bring women out of their shells and actually be able to live in that space as well. So I thank you so much for showing up and doing the work that you do, because we need as many of you in this world as possible, and leading by example is just so beautiful to witness. I'm super curious, if you can share with us we have, obviously, the podcast called. Wild and wild. Like, what would you say it means to you to live wild and, well, oh
Speaker 1 40:05
my gosh, I love it to live wild and, well, like, for me, it's just, it's to live free, like, at the end of the day, like, even being a wild woman, like, I love being expressed. I love being crazy. I love having fun. I love, you know, just being able to show up as I feel authentic in the moment, and I feel like in my willingness to do so and embrace like that part, I'm a burner too. We were talking about this earlier Burning Man. So like embracing like that liberated, free version of myself, it's like I'm living well, there's literally nothing I need. There's nothing I have to prove there's nothing I really want from anybody. I just My only desire is to continue to live this way so that I can serve as a reflection to other women. Like, if you're listening to this and you're feeling something inside of you, it's because what exists in me is actually in you, and it's looking to be ignited. So to be wild is to maybe act like, take some action on this, and say, like, be bold and make a commitment to yourself that you're going to put your stake in the ground and you're going to make a move for you that's going to be beneficial for your future self. Like, allow yourself to go against the conventions of society. Because my perspective, you know, there's, it's broken. There's a clear epidemic in the way that we're living, in the way that people are being driven into the ground, in the disconnection that they have for themselves. So to be wild is actually like being willing to take whatever isn't working for you, like some parts do work. I don't want to trash the whole thing, but take anything that may not be in an alignment for you right now and say, You know what? I'm just gonna leave this here now, and I'm gonna just, I'm gonna go left. Everyone's going right peace. And yeah, that's my take on it. Thank
Sheree 41:51
you. Where can we find you? We'll pop everything in the show notes as well. But it's always good to hear where you want people to come and have a chat, because I know you're always open to a
Speaker 1 42:00
good combo. I'm really active on Instagram. I'm constantly sort of sharing behind the scenes, and, you know, a lot of value there. I also have a podcast that I'm hopefully going to be bringing back soon. Hello, beautiful and Sheree and I, we did an episode like, three years ago on that. But, yeah, I would say Instagram podcast is the two places to find me. Amazing.
Christa 42:18
So much. Yes, this has been fabulous. Thank you so much, and I'm glad that our listeners are here, and they get to experience such a wide variety that we offer here on this podcast. But certainly it starts with the heart. It starts with the soul. It starts in trusting and loving yourself, and from there, physical health happens, creativity happens, all of that. So thank you so much Sam for being here.
Unknown Speaker 42:42
Thank you, ladies.
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