Christa 0:00
Hello, everyone, I am so excited about today's conversation. Today we have Dr. Tara Campbell, she is a naturopathic doctor in Canada. She's amazing. She's the founder of higher health center and a powerhouse in the realm of naturopathic medicine. She's the offer author of the IV solution, reclaim your wellness with micronutrients. And today we're going to be talking to her all about micronutrients in the form of minerals, we're going to be talking about hormone balancing, we're going to be talking about ways to really nourish your mitochondria, the powerhouses within yourself so that you can prevent or heal from burnout. Tara is a wealth of information. And I cannot wait for you to hear all that she has to talk about today. Let's get started. Okay, so we have with us, Tara, and I want you to introduce your magnificent self, tell us a little bit about how you got started and how you chose to go the naturopathic route? Well, I
Speaker 1 1:03
think all of us health practitioners, we have a story and something that led us to the holistic health world and looking for something more, I'm getting goosebumps when I say that. And for me, it was really a journey of anxiety and depression actually where I really thought the conventional medical model, but it was it was at a time where I don't think Holistic Health was as appreciated, as appreciated as much as it is now. And so I didn't really have resources available to me, but I had this inner belief that there has to be something more and there, you know, situational life circumstances, but also I appreciated the bio chemical physiology aspects. But the only option for me at the time when I was in high school or university was was pharmaceuticals. And so that, to me was scary. That's a brain chemical I'm putting into my body, there's no test for it. That was really disappointing to me, within the conventional model that okay, how can I go from hero to zero and feel so horrible and disconnected and the only thing that's going to make it better is a chemical but yet they don't really know what's going on. So, um, now I understand it a little bit further that there is you know, if you flood your serotonin receptors and the neuro synapses, then that does rebalance the others. But I do think it would be good to know is someone more deficient in GABA or more deficient in serotonin? Or is it their dopamine? Or is it a mix of all which for me that was, and certainly hormones come into play as well. When we get depleted or burnt out, we're depleting both hormones and neurotransmitters and nutrients. And so Holistic Health naturopathic medicine for me, actually, my further background while going through this process, and going through school, I was a personal trainer, and I just found my clients were the moms or the grandmas, where I was into an intimidating, robust, muscular personal trainer not to stereotype, but they could identify with me and then feel safe with me, but uncomfortable, and but also they started asking me all kinds of questions that I really didn't have answers to. And so I was a therapist I was all these things that I wasn't qualified to do. And yet here I was counting reps and thinking God, I want to do more, or be able to educate and be educated myself on a deeper level level for wellness. So enter naturopathic medicine, serendipitous path many times over plunking me on the path, grateful that I could listen to that and be where I am today.
Christa 3:37
I love that one thing that there's so much to love about you. But as we got to know each other and kind of learn a little bit about our practices, we have this joint love for really helping our patients get back to productivity and energy. And during this conversation, I know we're gonna chat a lot about energy but I wanted to talk about a hormone that isn't talked about a lot. And that is the nighttime miracle worker of melatonin and high achievers, you know, we really when we're talking about hormones, and we're talking about energy, you know, this hormone often doesn't come into the discussion. And so I wondered if we could kind of start our conversation out on this hormone,
Speaker 1 4:18
the power antioxidant circadian rhythm regulator. I love melatonin and I would name a child Nelly. And I just really I know there's some controversy about melatonin from some very advanced practitioners and I really am on the side of pro melatonin. And I don't think by taking melatonin, you block your own production of it. I think the dosing we're looking at, which can range I do high dosing to just everyday dosing. I really think our body needs a reminder of circadian rhythm regulation and melatonin is that and it's also such an amazing antioxidant even through the pandemic and COVID if we're allowed to say that word I, a lot of research was showing how that melatonin was part of the treatment protocol. So I think that's really interesting. And on a side, little tangent, so melatonin is great for skin health and melasma. So I remember I had this brown spot on my face that I could see it getting darker and darker in pictures. And then through the pandemic, I was really dosing melatonin for immune health. I was doing the master protocol and the brown spot went away. So I think that's incredible and antioxidant power again to melatonin,
Christa 5:33
what kind of dosing are you talking about? Because you know, endogenously in our body, we're really not making that much. So I'm just curious how what kind of dosing do you recommend and or is it different given what you're aiming
Speaker 1 5:45
So a standard dosing and my protocols would be one milligram to five. I typically write three to five milligrams, but I really like this one sublingual form of melatonin, which is I say, three to five sprays before bed, and I keep it by my bedside and that it's really half a mil. Is it microgram? Oh my gosh, milligram pretty sure milligram milligram per spray. So if I'm saying three to five sprays, you're really getting one to two milligrams.
Christa 6:14
What about for people waking up in the middle of the night? Because I love the spray, because you have the control over? You know, the sprays? Yeah, I'm curious what your take is on that? Because I've recommended some, you know, women who wake up at two in the morning consistently to spray one. Do you find that most people wake up refreshed? Or is that too late? In the night to take it?
Speaker 1 6:33
Yeah, I find my partner for example, I don't take melatonin, he becomes a bear. He gets so foggy in the morning. So suppressed like and so that just makes him feel irritable because he feels stuck. And I think before we hopped on the actual recording, we were talking about genetic testing, and I think methylation and different aspects come into play here. So perhaps for him, that's why he's having that symptom. But I found I have a four year old daughter and in the early stages, like two years of age three, when she was frequently waking in the night, if I didn't take melatonin before bed. And then of course I'm going to wake anyway for her. I would have a harder time falling back to sleep when I didn't take it. So I it is typically known that it helps to you fall asleep. Not necessarily to stay asleep, but it was working for me in that way of it helps me fall back to sleep more easily. Have you retired?
Christa 7:31
Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 7:35
I've gone down the rabbit hole of melatonin. So glad. I didn't know what we do. hone in on melatonin with me. And if you've seen me talk about it, because I want to talk about it more, and I have in the past, but anyway, I was doing melatonin suppository. So I forget the doctor's name. He's in Florida Map or I can't remember. But he was talking about melatonin suppository, and I was dosing for some people 100 to 200 milligrams rack. What? Wow, yeah, first or not ongoing, but as a circadian rhythm regulator, reset the body. So that's using
Christa 8:10
that. That's a lot. That's a high dose. I know. It's a little bit of a learning curve for people to do something rectally, right. I think once you get it, but you got to you got to do the you got to do it first to really be comfortable with that. But so why is such a high dose in that route versus sublingually in the mouth.
Speaker 1 8:30
So the research at that time now it's been a while and we all get in our rhythms and paths. And we prescribed certain things and trends and themes. And I was really into it for a bit but I don't know, I haven't done it as much. I haven't done it in a while. But I remember it was more to refresh, reset the body. And and and then I just loved the antioxidant power of it. Yeah, but typically, I would do the oral dosing, and we have an oncology focus at our office. And so we're dosing about 10 milligram 10 to 20 milligrams for those cases. And the research really supports that. But in general, I think three to five milligrams is a good dose. Yeah, okay.
Christa 9:09
You're using with cancer patients. You're using it as a skin anti aging, and just overall people. Immunity. Yeah. Fascinating. I love that. I know, we could do a whole podcast on melatonin. I'm glad that we did because it's a hormone that we just don't dive into as often as sex hormones or insulin or cortisol. Right. And so I think that yeah, we really should, there's a
Speaker 1 9:32
lot of components to high achieving women always go, go go go are you just can easily throw your body out of rhythm. And so I really liked educate on that power. Melatonin has to regulate our rhythms and you can also increase your production of it by light exposure first thing in the morning, which is so important and people just don't see the light as much as they should. And I think that that is a really powerful Before you even take melatonin at night, you have to step out into the sunlight into the in the morning.
Sheree 10:05
Yeah, I love it's such a powerful regulator. I've only just started taking the melatonin when COVID hit. So it's really interesting that you brought that up, like the immune protocol when I'm like your husband, where if I take it to light or like, if I take too much of it, I will wake up super groggy. So I'm interested from a genetic perspective as to what, what's causing that. But I've noticed a huge difference. I don't take it every night. But it's, it's amazing, especially if you just need that little bit of something to knock you out. If you pass that what I like to call like that sleep train window, where you're like, we need to go to sleep. I've stayed up a little bit late because I'm doing something that needs to be done as we all have. So yeah.
Speaker 1 10:43
Beautiful. Before and after melatonin shots. Yeah. Scientists repository. Yeah,
Sheree 10:55
maybe I will. But I know, I know a huge part of what you do, just to change course a little bit in terms of your practice, which is an area I'm super excited to chat on. Because it's actually not hugely focused on especially in New Zealand. I know it's really getting gaining a lot of traction in the States and in Canada, but you do a lot of IV therapy to replace minerals. Now, can you touch a little bit on like, what that even does for our body? Why we would even replace the minerals. If you do any mineral testing the points of that, like, I think it's something that again, we go down the supplement route really quickly. And so if we could talk a little bit to the benefits of it, too. I'm super intrigued with this.
Speaker 1 11:34
Yeah, I actually call it micro nutrient replenishment. And there's no melatonin in the IV, unfortunately, but micro nutrient replenishment. So the minerals are a small component of the treatment, I would say it's more focused on vitamin C, and that's the main player that the higher mount of milliliters we put in. So comparatively, you might put 10 to 20 milliliters of vitamin C but but mineral wise, we're putting four milliliters of magnesium standardly, maybe more for certain conditions, and the minerals, the multitude of minerals, it's one milliliter, so it's really minimal to the other ingredients. But that's also how we dose anyway, it's a multivitamin is low dose generalized, so But I look at the IV as micronutrient or punishment. And it's not replacing it's replenishing. And we are trillions of cells in our body. All we are globs of cells, and all put together very nicely, and miraculously, actually, but we are using our nutrients every second. And so we need to keep replenishing them. We're also living in a modern world where we're up against a lot of things in our environment. So a lot of oxidative stress, and we use our bodies are smart, and they're able to process but if you bombard it too much, it's gonna get sluggish, right? So we're aging faster in our modern world. And I think we need to really focus on this replenishment or not just energy and I find low energy to be kind of a lot lot. Why, like, do do I focus on low energy? Well, it's just so much more all encompassing. When you talk about energy, I think we're with micronutrients. We're tapping into vitality. We want to support your body to feel it's best. And so it's micronutrient replenishment. Another key aspect is the hydration. I think we're very dehydrated, as a culture and specifically to vitamin C deficient we don't have scurvy in our day and age. But I think so many people can be deficient in vitamin C,
Sheree 13:37
what would that look like? Like if you're back because I know a lot people going oh, I just I just need to take it when my immune systems low or it's not really an everyday need. And I also know that once it's picked from the food supply, it loses about 80% Like if you're actually trying to get it through food, others nutrients within four days. So actually getting a vitamin C contents probably quite hard for people but what do people look for if they are deficient or depleted?
Speaker 1 14:00
I mean skin health would be something if you notice dry skin or more than that vessels like not just your external skin but your capillaries and so a lot of breakage in your capillaries are not arteries or veins. So hopefully that capillaries but I yeah, those are the key things adrenals like a lot of adrenal supplement formulas will have vitamin C in it, but hey, you're really not going to reach a therapeutic dose in a adrenal oral supplement yet those are good. So analogy I often use is it would be really nice to have someone come in and clean your house. like nobody's gonna say they don't want that. But that's like the sweeper the cleaner the master, like putting everything away properly or at your work. It's someone coming in and everything's like clean and you come in fresh the next day, but you're still going to make your bed, do your dishes, put things away. That's like your daily nutrition and supplementation. So the IV is just more able to reach a more therapy periodic dose direct into our bloodstream. And anytime we're eating or taking supplements or taking medication, the goal is to get that that those nutrients or whatever it is to the bloodstream. So I love that IV goes directly to your bloodstream, where you actually need it. And then we teach yourself how to absorb the nutrients further. So a lot of people cellularly talking about circadian rhythm regulation, and we've lost connection to nutrient absorption. So we need to retrain ourselves the it goes deep into science and voltage gates and magnesium and calcium electricity within ourselves. But that's why a lot of the technologies like red light therapy and pumps and all that are really gaining popularity, because they're, they're supporting cellular health so that you can absorb more. So the IV dose at a certain frequency, like workout, you can't be fit in one workout. So I typically say an IV starting series would be once per week for four weeks to really train yourself to absorb. But that's also manageable for people four times, it certainly continues on weekly, monthly, it's always a great thing to do. And then dosing wise to answer your question further, orally, if we take vitamin C 1000 milligrams, which is a typical dose, or orally, the 1000 milligrams will go all through your digestive system, and only 200 milligrams with that will actually make it to your bloodstream, You'll pee out 800 milligrams. And so the same is happening. I don't know the exact equation. But the same is happening for anything we take orally, we're absorbing a portion of that small portion into our bloodstream. So with IV, it may sound like it's high dosing, it's high dosing compared to what you can take orally, the benefit of IV is we're going direct into your bloodstream with 5000 10,000 20,000 milligrams of vitamin C, where every cell in your body uses that nutrient. Amazing. Have you gotten enough in it?
Christa 17:01
I don't currently, I mean, I've done it as a patient, but I am currently looking at bringing it into my clinic because it's so fascinating how that can really move the needle faster for people, I think in terms of getting their energy back and getting their health back. I'm curious about red light, I do have a red light sauna in my clinic. Do you recommend doing the red light sauna right before? Like, does that help the cell become more receptive to what you're about? To give it an IV?
Speaker 1 17:30
Yes, I would say do the sauna before you do the IV. You don't want to do the IV and then do the sauna and sweat. So the IV is really great to replenish hydration, minerals, vitamin C. And so the Yeah, the light is amazing to do the infrared and the sauna and then follow with the IV.
Christa 17:48
My last question was with cellular health. I mean, when we talk about the receptivity of a cell, one thing that I automatically go to, and this will kind of bring me into my next question that I have with you like to expand on mitochondrial health, but within the cell, we have a membrane around the cell. And, you know, if if you would check the blood work on most people, the ratio between omega six and Omega three is really skewed. Like there's a lot of omega sixes and processed foods and clearly everything that is in a restaurant as well. And that can really membrane right. So I'm curious if you focus also on that ratio to make sure that the cell actually has a flexible membrane to really receive those nutrients. Is that something you focus on? Well,
Speaker 1 18:31
hey, in an ideal world, I'd love to run the Omega score. You're talking about that? I have run it and typically, I think our patient population, one of my top recommendations is omega three fish oil. I really think that's great for membrane fluidity. I don't think we get enough omega threes in our diet. And yeah, just like melatonin, there's some naysayers. Probably naysayers for fish oil. But I think the Omega score is great to know your ratios, maybe more in the States. No, well, maybe there is elevated Omega six to three more. So
Christa 19:07
the population that I see bloodwork on, typically, including myself, let's be real.
Unknown Speaker 19:15
You have to test to know.
Christa 19:17
Yeah, yeah, you do this, I know that the
Speaker 1 19:21
membrane fluidity does impact your ability to absorb. So again, it's like training your cells to absorb,
Christa 19:28
right. Yeah, yeah. So let's talk a little bit about inside the cell, the mitochondria, because when we talk about the poor foundations really for anything, we have to have energy to think clearly to have hormone regulation, all of the things you know, people come in with symptoms, but we know on the cellular level, it really boils down to the mitochondria. So if you could share a little bit, you know, tell the listeners a little bit about what the mitochondria does inside the cell. And then also what can listeners do on a day to day basis to really help themselves kind of get started with increasing energy by nourishing the mitochondria.
Speaker 1 20:02
Sure, well, your cellular health is so powerful. If your cells are working better your whole body is working better. I find patients really come in thinking, Oh, it's my hormones, and I've got to do the hormones. And I've got to rebalance that. But if your cells aren't working well, the hormone therapy is not going to work as well, either. So going out that cellular aspect is important. And you touch on ATP. So yes, your mitochondria make ATP. We use micronutrients to fuel our mitochondria to make ATP. And so I just yeah, when I was going through school, Adrenal Fatigue was a big buzzword. And I think now Adrenal Fatigue is more about mitochondrial deficiency.
Christa 20:42
Yep, absolutely. Yeah, it's interesting, where I worked before, you know, four years ago, in a practice that was that we were just, we were just given hormones to everybody. And that's really what drove me to go into functional medicine, because here I was giving hormone replacement to 30 year olds, and I'm thinking, Wait, why is it 30 year old meeting, meeting and quotations hormone replacement? And really, they would feel good for a month or two, and then they're right back to square one, because their body kind of acclimates to having that higher hormone level in the blood. But we still haven't solved what you mentioned that on the cellular level. So what are some things that people are experiencing some fatigue? Where do you start, you know, as a daily routine to kind of help to to nourish that and to heal the cells?
Speaker 1 21:27
Where do we start? Well, the first starting, so wherever you start is good. I think a really good starting point is assessment, right? Get your bloodwork know your markers, and I can't tell you how many times I just kind of cringe when someone comes in, I cringe and I smile, they say, Oh yeah, I did my blood work is all fine. Great. But what wasn't tested, and what are the optimal ranges. And so really educating people on thyroid being between one and two. And if it's below one, so stimulating hormone below one is even better, but not too low. Right? And B 12 is a common one, if there are 200, I'm thinking oh my god, this is so low, I'd like to see it up higher methylation comes into play, some people don't do well with methylation nutrients, so b 12, B six, and those types of nutrients are like, but I think knowing that is important. So when someone has a negative reaction to B vitamins, were you able to dig deeper to understand their methylation, whereas conventional medicine may shy away, and now they're like, Oh, you're beetles too high. That's terrible, you know, so just see a high number of B 12. flags at 700. It's just crazy. And I another marker that I'm constantly educating about is fasting insulin. And then people will say, Oh, I've tested my fasting, glucose, I've tested it, but educating them know, fasting, insulin is different, and most practitioners are looking at it, they're not trained to look at it, and is the precursor to hemoglobin a one C and blood sugar is going up. And then looking at your inflammatory markers is really important. So ESR and CRP than I would group fasting insulin as part of those that inflammatory awareness and ferritin, particularly men, they're not being screened for ferritin. But if they have inflammation, their ferritin is going to be really high. And then another example would be my mom who's going through rheumatoid arthritis, her ferritin was 73. So ferritin, being the storage of your iron, typically, ferritin is tested, and women prepared him with 78, which is awesome. But her iron Was it too. So had I not said, Go back, ask for your iron, it wouldn't have been caught that our iron was too. And that up their attendance showing that because of inflammation.
Sheree 23:48
I love this topic. Because I think it's so hard when you do get people that come in with their blood work, and they're going Yeah, I'm fine, the doctor saw it. And I also get so much resistance. And this is not bagging on doctors. But the amount of resistance I get when I get someone to go and do some blood work through their doctors, because in New Zealand, it's a lot easier to do that than me trying to send them to the lab, give them the form all that sort of it's also more cost effective to go that way as well, which clients and patients tend to prefer, but they do this is really they look at doctors looking at the presence or the absence of disease, and can we give them medication? If you're outside of those ranges, which I think the approach that we all take that's very different is Hey, are you outside of this optimal health ranges? And what nutrients might you be deficient in or what what's really going on at the root cause here to support back to their optimal health because let's face it, majority of people aren't walking around with optimal health with optimal mitochondrial function with optimal cellular health, like you say, and I work a lot with females in the hormonal space. And so I'm curious if you can talk to a little bit more about that disconnect and why we have to really, really focus on that cellular health when there's a hormonal imbalance because I think this again, still not quite an understanding. It's like when people don't get the gut health is going to have a massive pass on your hormones to bodies into linked, but we do always start with the hormones because they're the symptom bringers.
Speaker 1 25:07
Yeah, yeah, it's the buzz. How do I answer that? I don't know how we can teach medical doctors and not there's a place for all of it, I don't know how they can come out a greater appreciation for cellular health, I think everybody has a piece to the puzzle. And we're more on the proactive wellness nourishment side. And we're able to look a little deeper, whether it's time factors, or being an advocate for the patient versus being governed by a regulatory body of this is what you have to do in the visit to treat this and then realizing Wait, that's not actually getting the patient better. So there's a place for both. And I remember one patient who works in insurance claims and whatnot. He said, If you have a problem, if you're healthy, so your rec, regular medical doctor, but if you actually have a problem, you need to bring in that holistic side. Wow. Yeah. So
Sheree 26:03
sorry, in terms of like, actually educating your patients, though, when they come in, and they think it's a hormonal imbalance? How do you kind of take them back to being okay, we actually need to start with the so like, what, what kind of education do you provide? Or do you communicate to people to really connect the dots,
Speaker 1 26:18
I think it's about our overall look at the body, look at their habits, their lifestyle, their blood, work, their family history, just really getting a sense of their bodies. And then knowing or knowing that that's not just about hormones, that there's other pieces to the puzzle. And that, okay, if they're not drinking water, I had a patient the other day, who's having for two espresso shots, and four coffees double double and no water in the day, and she's waking up puffy in the morning. So hydration. So we have our part of our plan is you can't have a coffee until you've had a glass of we actually made it chlorophyll water because it's visual, it's alkalinizing. It's you know, it's not just a blank, or whatever, plain glass of water, which is readily available, there's actually something in it. And there's just more of a psychology around it. So she has to have a glass of that of chlorophyll water before she can have another coffee. And that's easy to do. Hey, you want the coffee? I'm a coffee lover myself, but I'll be able to down a glass of water in order to have my next to have another coffee. Sure, we can do that. Yeah,
Sheree 27:25
that's such a practical thing to do, too. Because like you say this, a lot of coffee lovers out there. And we are such a dehydrated population.
Speaker 1 27:32
Yeah. And I love that light therapy as a way to tap into cellular health to our bodies are electric and the earth is magnetic. But people live in condos, people don't walk outside on the beach during the day. Hey, we'd love to. So you're not grounded. We're not connected to that magnetic force in the earth. And so actually something I've set a goal to do for February and just daily. Now I just want to, I want to go out and walk in the winter, bare feet or a minute, even on pavement, you can do it and you get that magnetic charge up into your body.
Christa 28:10
A lot of times it is just the little things like that, like hydration. And that is exactly what I've done to habit stack hydration, because I used to be that person too. That didn't drink enough water. And now it's like yeah, did you water before and then you're you get the coffee at the end, the
Speaker 1 28:25
reward and touch on to for cellular health, cold exposure so powerful to ignite your mitochondria. Yeah,
Christa 28:35
absolutely. If you have access to that even a cold shower, right, even finishing with a cold shower does kind of stimulate on your face, it does kind of stimulate a little bit of that hormetic stress,
Speaker 1 28:44
there's good, better best. So start with the shower, and then ultimately getting to that point where you can submerge in cold water, the benefits are powerful. It's just like, wow, we are born with a lot of brown fat. So that's metabolically active tissue and you can watch a baby grow. And it's amazing that they're just growing every second. So as we grow we're building white fat, and at a certain point we have more white fat which is metabolically inactive. So cold plunging cold submersion actually stimulates back to the brown fat so it activates your metabolism think of mitochondrial health as your metabolism in a way your energy and I find club tension to be so amazing to just to build that brown fat.
Christa 29:30
Can we talk about glutathione for a minute that you know glutathione was kind of the we talked about melatonin being a powerful antioxidant. Glutathione is also like, I don't know, it's kind of a neck and neck like which which material in our body actually drives more of it? Do you actually infuse glutathione directly or do you give precursors or do you recommend things like coffee enemas to stimulate our body to make glutathione what and I guess if you could back up and kind of explain a little bit more in depth than I just did about what glutathione is And what it offers people who are trying to regain energy. So
Speaker 1 30:03
I also do glutathione suppositories inhaled glutathione. So nebulised Our lungs are rich in glutathione, but respiratory infection, what not we deplete our glutathione and viruses enter through depleted glutathione. So nebulised glutathione, IV glutathione, oral glutathione and rectal glutathione all great things precursor wise, I love and acetylcysteine I think that's a staple supplement for people, it's gonna make sure my power cord that
Christa 30:36
I know when you know, when patients had decreased renal function, you would have to actually give them that to take before they would do IV contrast. And that's because because it builds up that glutathione, it's a precursor to glutathione helps protect some of that detoxification pathway of the kidney. And so they would, and we would you Yes, they needed that before they could have IV contrast, because we so clinically, even in the hospitals, we would use this to upregulate that detoxification ability via giving the big blocks to glutathione. Before you could do IV contrast,
Speaker 1 31:11
it's also less expensive and a fee than going to die on.
Christa 31:16
precursors. So when we talk about genetics, too, I've actually done the DNA tests on myself and basically my genetic show that I would do better with the precursors unless I was having like a vert stress, like a big stress in my life, then maybe strike glutathione but my body actually does really, really well with just taking the precursors and putting it together and building biome. Do you screen for that? Or is it safe for people to just take glutathione? And what are you finding is the best route for people? I mean, is it a waste of money for people to take, you know, supplements that say their strength glutathione? I'd
Speaker 1 31:49
be curious what that exact marker was on your genetic testing to know you're better with the precursors. I do look at the organic acid test. And that has both n acetyl, cysteine and glutathione. And methylation is not genetic based. It's a urine test. And I can see there, some people are good with glutathione, their stores are good, but their NAC is lower. And so that would guide me, but not everybody has this testing, like or is able to do the testing. And so it really depends on what you have accessible to you like a sorry, this is also a bit of a tangent, a patient did the ote. And so their organic acid test and she was very high oxalates also had some body pain. She's young, but active but not feeling her best. And with the high oxalates and the pain, I was thinking, are you getting a lot of spinach by any chance? And she said, Oh, I love spinach. So basically boiled down a whole container of spinach. And so part of her treatment plan is stopped the spinach stuff all oxalate foods are beets, almonds, the spinach, and I checked in with her recently to say so how's your pain and we put her on magnesium and B six and which are really good to clear oxalates. And she's feeling better. So I wouldn't have known about oxalates for her had I not done that test. So I think great to get your genetic testing great to get the organic acid and know your Pathways, the organic acid testing looks at pathways and if people can be blocked in their pathways, and yeah, individualized medicine, if someone has a reaction, if it's like if you took glutathione and you felt sluggish, I might think oh, you're detoxing. And that's good. Or we can go to NAC and promote and build you up. So I think individual cases, but glutathione is really three amino acids put together. So it's glycine, glutamate, and oh my gosh, sitting Yeah, yeah. So glutamate not great. But the glycine and the NAC. cysteine. Great. And glutathione is a peptide. We love another compensation. I want to pick your brains on that.
Christa 34:00
I love I love peptides as well. We could talk we could do another podcast on just peptides that we love.
Speaker 1 34:06
Yes. Yeah. Awesome. So, no, I think that always even regardless of glutathione or melatonin, we need to support our antioxidants. So I actually look at do I prescribe a lot of minerals? Not really, more. So I go to antioxidants.
Christa 34:26
Yeah, that's good to know. And you know, there has to be a balance between too much. And I mean, a little bit of oxidative stress is beneficial. We don't want to wipe the whole thing out, right. So there's a balance and everything. So and I'm just saying that to that list. Listeners aren't like, let me get every antioxidant that I can swap my body out a little bit. There is a balance and I think that's where personalized medicine and really working with somebody who can help guide you. You actually need as an individual be helpful,
Speaker 1 34:50
right? Like don't do 200 milligrams of melatonin every day for a year. And the same on the same token, we're not doing it Be every day, right? So you do have, you're exposed to so many oxidants in your day that I don't think it's possible to overtake oxidants. And for that, that your antioxidants or oral antioxidants become oxidative, I think there's always a need to quench oxidants
Sheree 35:19
Yeah, and I think, you know, like we were talking about people, especially high achievers, I know tend to swing with that all or nothing or go to the extreme. So I'm really pleased that you brought that in, like, we don't have to be doing these extreme levels of everything, all the time to stay on top of our health and well being and so, with the high achievers that are listening, a lot of a lot of people come to us for energy for preventing burnout, like what would be maybe your top three tips if someone's just looking to really start or really support their bodies preventing the burnout in the first place? What would you suggest?
Speaker 1 35:51
Okay, so bloodwork for sure, get your markers know your markers, that was my beef way back was we aren't you test my brain to know why I'm feeling this way. So like, let's explore let's there is there's so many options. It's just about knowing what they are and which ones are best for you. So a lot of people want to do the food sensitivity test. But that's not really the best one for you. Sometimes, maybe, but there's other things that you can do. And so knowing what those options are, and don't just accept the line of fine, right? Oh, yeah, my blood works fine. It's good. My doctor said it's good. So don't accept that and dig deeper. So that's number one. Number two, I really think we need to get back into natural rhythms. So light therapy, hydration, grounding outdoors, fresh air, like really get to nature get to rhythms, I love the thought of the elements. So Earth, Wind, Water, Fire. And you can look at that that birth is your grounding wind is breathwork air rhythmic breathing, and we're not breathing properly. Most times are in a day or wind water. That's the hydration there's so many things to learn about hydration as well. And I want to learn more about hydrogen water structured water, but the quality of our water is really important. IV cold plunging, so that would fit underwater for me cold exposure, hot, cold showers and fire the sauna son, I guess there's crossovers here, but like, yeah, hot cold therapy. So the elements, I think, are really important. And number three, be inspired, be inspired and excited about your house. So have fun with it. And that's missing in conventional medicine too. And working with someone is really key because you can read things great. I want like educate yourself, but have conversations about this, build it into your day, you know, the therapeutic space is powerful. And if you have a plan and you're working with someone and I think about my patients all the time, I'll someone will pop into my head and I'll reach out to them. They'll say hey, how are you doing with this? Or oh, so and so just had a surgery and wonder how they're doing and just the again, just getting goosebumps that I just know to reach out to them? How are you doing? And you know, that is so powerful. So I love my answers there. We've got assessment, the elements and excitement, inspiration, connection support.
Christa 38:11
I love it. I love it. And people could just run with that, you know, like just really rewind this podcast right now and re listen to that. So much, so much goodness in those tips. Tara Thank you. You're such a wealth of knowledge and you're beautiful inside and out. And I'm so thankful in my life and where can other people connect with you? How can people connect with you to become your patient or otherwise if you have programs Yeah, so
Speaker 1 38:37
I love having conversations on Instagram. So I'm just really inspired there to put out little nuggets and inspiration and chat and love the comments on Instagram my handle is Dr. Tara C and D I also very proud professionally and personally to have finished a book that was seven eight years in the making, which was oh god it was painful about the time but I couldn't see it it's like when you watch a movie if you're you if you're the actor and I would just guess this they don't see the end product the director puts it together so I couldn't see the end product so it's really hard for me to translate my patient visits to the book to all the information I would get so stuck and now that it's finished and I can see it i It's ah and it's nicely packaged. And here's the printed book and wow okay, it's I did it and so that book if you go on Amazon Dr. Tara Campbell IV solution would love for you to read that I talk about my pillars I guess would be mindset and similar to what we've talked about here, woven through mindset movement, micronutrient I think that's the key to health. So when I said my top three mindset is really that excitement movement. We got to get our bodies moving resistance, the elements all of that and then micronutrients, hydration nutrients replenish our bodies. So yeah, I'd love to hear your thoughts I'm sending you guys have been make it all the way to New Zealand. Oh my gosh, I'd love to hear your thoughts and its stories, patient stories I had to a patient was in the lounge and another. So they were saying, Oh, congratulations. It's out what not. And then the one patient said to the other. I'm Jane. That's an anonymous name. But it was really sweet and fun. And yeah, it's our patients stories that are the best.
Sheree 40:24
And you learn so much from from like case studies and reading client stories and stories is what people remember to like. It's great to have all the knowledge and all the information there, which I'm sure you've provided, but it's really going to stick with you when you can resonate or understand, oh, gosh, someone else went through this too. And look, there was a solution. There wasn't a concern. I think you're sharing. Thank you. Yeah, I
Christa 40:45
think I think just the patient's comment is it just says how much of a community that you have built in your practice over there and how much people trust you so definitely reach out to Tara, if you're looking for support on a cellular level and a deep, deep level. If you're in Canada, she's right there for you. So thanks again.
Unknown Speaker 41:06
Zealand, yeah, the world waiting it to New Zealand.
Sheree 41:15
I'll be your first patient.
Speaker 1 41:18
Awesome. Thank you ladies so much. Thanks for being here.
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