Sheree 0:00
Welcome back to another killer episode of The Wild Wild collective. This week's guest is a beautiful soul that I actually had the privilege of connecting through another friend. She is such a powerhouse in her space and her name is Beth wood. Beth wood offers somatic coaching and business strategy for woman looking to craft a life honoring their feminine design. And if you're not sure what that means, stay tuned for this episode because we tell all her programs are designed to help you learn how to reconnect with your feminine nature, cycle sync, live and work seasonally as well as developing a business to honor your body and energy. As a woman. We discussed so much potent and pertinent information, everything from cycle thinking to the masculine feminine balance that you can create within your business within your life, and the beauty of somatic healing. So without further ado, it is such an honor to have Beth, join us in today's podcast. Beth, welcome. It is such an honor to have you here today. I cannot wait to dive into the juiciness of this conversation. I know, last time we spoke, there was a lot of wisdom that you shared, and I cannot wait for our listeners to be able to hear it. So welcome.
Speaker 1 1:18
Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited. Any chance I get to talk about this stuff just makes me super stoked, so can't wait.
Sheree 1:24
So let's just dive right in. Because you're such a powerhouse of knowledge in this space. And a huge part of the work that you do is around cycle thinking around balancing the masculine and feminine energy and really owning that, as a powerful empowered woman. Can you start off and share with our listeners, what really is balancing the masculine and feminine what really is masculine feminine energy? Because I know there can be so much confusion around this.
Speaker 1 1:52
Yeah, so there's a lot of confusion around it, because it is they're kind of interchangeable terms. So some people use it from a biological perspective, masculine and feminine than other people use it from an energetic perspective. So I kind of do both. Because I do believe that men have more masculine energy, women have more feminine energy, and that comes from our hormonal makeup and just from our own design. And so I kind of use them both interchangeably, but it is helpful to decipher like, what are we talking about. So when we're talking about masculine and feminine energy, what we're really talking about is the masculine energy is very, you can think of it kind of like this Fermi energy I did not come up with that somebody else did. But it always stuck with me, and I don't know who to who to credit that to. But it's kind of this Fermi energy. So if you think about a sperm, it's like very targeted, very one track mind. Like, it's like, I'm gonna get to the egg. And that is my only job. So it's very singular, focused, it's very much about expanding territory, it's very much about like, there's this big, vast world, and I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna expand into it. Whereas eggy energy, which is more of the feminine energy is all about receptivity. So we're spermy energies go out and get it. Ag energy is receptivity. She's actually like, absorbing the things into her right? So she's like, I'm open, I'm here, and I'm going to absorb, but it's done with intention. And so with the energy you're really looking at, she has this really specific boundary and filtration system that says, Is this good enough for me or not? And if it's not, it's gonna be like a hard No. If it's good for me, then I'm gonna go ahead and let it into my space. So the feminine is very much about receiving she's also the creator, the feminine is this, this bridge between what isn't and what is so that that creative energy, right, so if you think about a woman, literally the portal between what is not and what is it's the the the or the portal that actually brings new life into this earthly realm. And so very much bridging the gap, we kind of have a foot in the spiritual and a foot in the physical, whereas the masculine is much more the domain of the masculine is the physical realm, the domain of the feminine is the spiritual and emotional realm. So you can kind of start to look at it that way. If you think about like the Ag energy, what are some of the qualities of the Ag energy versus what are some of the qualities of the spermy energy spermy energy again, target whereas ag energy is more like ERP, sorry, Arrow versus the Ag energy's a little bit more like the target the receiver like I'm here, and things are coming to me versus me having to go out and get them from a hormonal perspective, that looks like men typically have more testosterone, more cortisol, more adrenaline, those things work synergistically in the male body, that gives them the ability to have singular focus, we think of men like having box brains. And I always describe this, again, not a term I, I coined, but something I go back to a lot and then are waffles and women are spaghetti. So the way that men's brains work, or like they have these individual little compartments in their brain, and they have to have a specific transition ritual to get them from one box to the next. Whereas women were like, everything is connected all the time. I don't have to like, think about okay, how am I going to get from work mode into children mode? I'm just there. I'm like, oh, Johnny's having a fit on the floor. I'm going to deal with it while I'm having this podcast interview, right. So that's very much like spaghetti brain. Everything is interconnected and that has to do a lot with our hormonal makeup. So that's where it kind This idea of like the energy versus the biology of the masculine and feminine, it really does overlap. Because in women's bodies, we do have a different biological makeup than men. And so I use those things kind of interchangeably. But a lot of the times in the self development world, they're talking more specifically about the energy of the masculine and the feminine. And if you think about the masculine to the masculine is really the boundary, the protective mechanism that honors and protects the sacredness of the feminine, right. So that shows up as anything from systems in your business to honor your energy to make sure that you are not being you've got really good boundaries in your business, you don't have clients that are like taking too much, you're not giving too much. But you're also able to really serve your clients deeply. So the masculine in your business can look like really good systems. In the birth environment, the masculine can look like a birthing pool, it can look like the doula it can be anything that's holding and containing that space, and really like protecting the sacredness of the feminine in that arena. So it's like a huge, big conversation and to different people, it means different things. But that's kind of how I view it. That all kind of makes sense. Yeah,
Christa 6:07
that was a really cool explanation I had, I love the waffle brain versus the spaghetti brain like, Oh, help. All right. Yeah. So true. Like we can multitask. And what is your take on how you know, and how some women really dive more into more of that masculine, like, grabbing hold of more of that, and losing themselves and losing kind of that maybe that innate femininity of really going inward? You know, I mean, because I think a lot of high achievers tend to be very outward goal driven, have very spermy energy, as you say, and, and so it can be hard sometimes to even do inner work, when you're in that space to really sit back and listen and feel into the inner workings, like how do you approach your clients that kind of come from that space? Yeah.
Speaker 1 6:54
So as a I'm a three on the Enneagram. I'm an achiever, very type a very organized like I that was what got me into this work was I was like, I'm hitting burnout so often, because I will not rest until I've succeeded. So I'm really doing the work for myself so that I can help my clients because I understand that experience, what I see consistently is number one, we want to look at it culturally. So in the 1950s. And then I went off to war, women stepped into the workforce that was designed by men for men, nothing insidious, it was literally like, men were gone. And women are amazing at filling the gap. And we still had a workforce we still had to meet make the economy run. So women step into that environment, but we don't understand that it was designed for a male's biology. So it's designed for a male's 24 hour rhythm. We operate on a lunar rhythm, a 28 day rhythm, that's how our hormones work, right. So a lot of what I see is just the misunderstanding that we're somehow not doing it right. And so we have to try so much harder in order to make it work, which puts us in that overachiever mode, because we're like, well, we have to figure out how to do this day in and day out every 24 hours and make it work like clockwork. And that makes us feel like we have to overachieve all the time. So there's that component, there's also personality, like, yes, there are some women who are much more like, I'm just like, I just want to be the homemaker. And I say just as in like, that's the single focus that I want. Not that that is not important, because it's so important. But like there's the women who want to be the homemaker or the mom. And then there's the women who are like, but I also want to have a business or I want to get this specific expression out into the world. And I want it to look this way, beautiful things and we need both. And there's nothing wrong or right about either one. It's just for each woman. So personality has a lot to do with it upbringing has a lot to do with the culture has a lot to do with it. But I think at the core, we want to look at the majority of the women and this is my own experience. In my own work. The majority of the women that I work with that are Type A overachievers like hitting burnout over and over and over, it is not because that's how they actually naturally operate. It's because that's what they feel like they've been forced into. And the reason that that is a lot of the time, it's cultural. We don't realize we haven't been taught about our own bodies. So we don't even know what it feels like to be in our bodies in a natural, healthy way. And the other thing that happens is a lot of women will be well, they'll come to me and they'll be like, Well, I've been able to go go go forever. And I don't really understand why, like what's there doesn't seem to be any kind of a detriment. Well, the way that women's bodies work is we have this compound nutritive effect. And so what happens is when we have stress over and over and over, it takes much longer for us to see it biologically than men. Because our hormones work on an essentially a 90 day it takes 90 days for an egg to mature. So it takes our bodies a lot longer to see results in the gym results in our diet. It takes us a longer a lot longer to notice emotional changes that happen over the course of those three months. So we have this compound effect. So if we're super stressed, we are built for longevity we're built to be able to have babies and to be able to pass on nutrition to those Babies. So we our bodies hold things very differently than men. So what ends up happening is when we're stressed for long periods of time, it doesn't show up until way later it shows up as osteoporosis. When you're in your, when you're like, perimenopausal or menopausal, it shows up in in early death, it shows up in heart attacks, it shows up in all of these different ways, or in more subtle ways earlier, so it shows up in I'm having panic attacks all the time, I don't know why I have PMDD. I have postpartum depression, it shows up in these subtle, it's not really subtle, but it shows up in these much subtler ways. Because our bodies are like, we still have to go, we still have to take care of our babies, we still have to make sure that we're like surviving at a basic level, right. But I also am not going to I like can't pull from resources I don't have. So it shows up in all these weird little ways. I've never had a client that is truly like, I'm an overachiever. And this is the way I was designed. There's always a misunderstanding from a biological perspective, or from an emotional like psychosomatic perspective. So that's kind of how I see that picture.
Sheree 11:02
I love how you explain that. And I think it's so relevant. I know, Krista and I both very similar in that space, like, we tend to lean a lot into the masculine energy. And it was a huge learning curve. And you mentioned burnout a number of times as you were explaining that. And I know it's something that again, both of us have gone through. And it can be really hard to navigate as well, if you are operating in your masculine, and you're seeing those results. And like you say you're not seeing the negative byproduct of those results until potentially even three months down the track. So when you're talking about navigating this burnout, and it's obviously a journey you've been on, do you mind sharing a little bit of like your story and how you overcame that, and how that how you really ended up leaning into more of this feminine space and mastering that, because you do this so eloquently.
Speaker 1 11:52
Let's see if I can give you the Cliff's Notes version. So let's see. So originally, it started, I was out in more of a cold corporate II kind of environment. And I would even when I was really young, like even when I would go to like primary school, I would get to a point where I would be overworking and I would have some kind of an illness and my mom would have to take me out of school. So this goes back like a long time. And she would go Yeah, every three months, it's so weird, you'll get really sick, you'll either be like vomiting or something will happen, you'll get really sick. But it's like clockwork, every three months. It's so weird. Now, knowing what I know, I'm like, Oh, well, of course, because my poor little body was like, I just can't and I'm gonna give you whatever I can to make sure that you can go and rest and you can have space. So that was like the original. And then I went into more of a corporate environment was working a lot working full time and just kept getting sick. And eventually it hit a point where I was having I had gallbladder attack, I had to do gallbladder cleanses, I was like passing stones, all of this stuff was happening and my body was just falling apart. And so I ended up being essentially on bed rest for like, six to eight months, I could not function I was literally eating rice peas and a little bit of avocado for nine months I was I just could not eat anything and couldn't digest anything like my body was just shutting down, couldn't hold a job because I couldn't even get to my car without feeling really dizzy and like feeling like I was gonna pass out. So I felt like maybe a vehicle driving a vehicle wasn't a great idea. So it was really hard. So I started my own business strategy company and executive assistant business. And so I was working virtually, and I had about half 5050 men versus women clients. And what I kept noticing was my male clients. And my female clients were dealing with very similar levels of business levels of stress levels, like team sizes, all of that. But my female clients were disproportionately more affected than my male clients. They were falling apart at the seams like similar stuff that I was having infertility issues, sleep issues, they were having heart palpitations, there was all this stuff going on. And I was like, It's really weird that you guys are all dealing with the same things, but you're not dealing with them. Well, what's going on. And I'm really into anthropology, I'm really intense as throw medicine. I'm into traditional Chinese medicine and your VEDA. And so those were the ways that I pulled myself kind of out of that was learning those types of modalities just on my own in my own learnings. And as I studied more and more of that, I was like, Oh, they all talk about the masculine and the feminine. And they all talk about the differences between the biology between male and female, and how women work in the moon and man men work is the sun and all of these different things. So I started to kind of put the pieces together that way and I started incorporating that into my business. I eventually like just dropped guys altogether in my business. I just wasn't as excited to work with them. So I was working only with women. And eventually I heard the term of cycle thinking that was coined by Alisa Vitti. That's her whole methodology. And it kind of resonated and it kind of didn't, I was really thankful that they had language for the framework of the female biology in our 28 day in 3d and rhythm. But it was also like this feels super masculine. It feels very rigid and it doesn't feel applicable. Like I heard about seeds cycling way early on. And I was like there's no way I'm changing the seeds I eat every single day. I'm just not doing mean God. So I started like, I was like, Okay, so there's like, you know, I'll take a little bit from this and start to understand, understand it from that perspective. But it made more sense to me when I was going back to your Veda and Chinese medicine. And so I started piecing all of this together really started to bring it in with my clients and helping them see like you work differently, your body does not have the same cognitive focus day to day, you don't have the same body composition, day to day, your brain matter changes what like 35%, or something over the course of the month, there's so many drastic changes that happen for you every 28 days. So if you expect to show up in your business every single day, the exact same, or as a mom, every single day, the exact same, you're going to feel burnt out, and it's not going to work. And so I started bringing that in, and it was really over the course, like I'm an eight, I think you're eight of us doing this. And it's had different iterations. But it eventually was like through my own experience, and then testing it out with my sweet clients who were so willing to be guinea pigs at the time to develop what I have now, which is my gentle business Jumpstart. And it's this framework of we're going to include the biology of your party, we're going to include some of the ancestral wisdom of maybe your specific heritage, but then also ancestry as a whole, like what have our ancestors always done? And how can we actually weave that into modern day systems or your your current experience, a lot of that looks like seasonal living and seasonal business. But then also, can we bring in the masculine right into our business and into our lives, which is coming in the form of really good systems, automations delegations optimizing things. That's where the masculine comes in. And so I kind of like, pieced it all together into one half now. And honestly, it keeps evolving. And I think that's, that's part of the beauty of business and of, of learning and healing is it's like it constantly evolves. And if you're not growing, you're dying. So I kind of love it, but it is, it's kind of this whole long thing that got me. Okay, I like
Christa 16:51
that you took the cycle thinking and thought it was a little rigid. I mean, it is some people really thrive and severe structured, right, I am not one of those people, like if you give me structure and like how can I like break out? But I think it is life changing. Yeah, to understand our hormones, and and I tried to share that a lot with my patients as well. Because how many years do most women maybe never, they may never learn in their cycling years, the intricacies and the variation that naturally happens that we cannot work out the same all month long. And we really shouldn't be doing the same things in our day to day life all day long. And so I'm really curious to hear how you have kind of brought in a bit more fluidity to that rigidity. For me, I just sort of in my mind, check in, you know, with a workout before I grabbed the weights like Wait, where am I at? am I grabbing heavier? Am I grabbing? Like, but you know, I started out with the calendar like this is the week I'm on? Yeah, I just you know, I broke out of that really quickly. So I'm really curious here how you've kind of brought a little bit of more fluid to that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 17:53
So there's two things that came to mind. Number one is I didn't touch on somatic work. And that's like, what underpins all of the stuff that I do. And that really is what serves what you're talking about right now. So somatic work is that mind body connection, and my true belief is that your body holds the wisdom. And we are we are literally woven together with the wisdom of and of our ancestors. And so that's written into our genetic code. So it's, it's less about the what exactly do I have to do every single day. And it's a lot more about following your own energy and trusting that the insights that come are for you, the reason that the cycle thinking method I didn't love was because it was a masculine format. It's a masculine framework. So to me, it was like this doesn't match. You can't speak to a woman about being in her feminine coming from a masculine structure. And I have never met a woman who is like, I hate structure, who ends up well, either direction, either hate structure or love structure so much that that's all they can handle. I've never met a woman who that's authentic to them. That's usually just one end of the pendulum. And so we work, we use somatic work to really bring that to center and understand what actually works for you. And so for me, really leaning into the wisdom of your own body is the most important thing you can do. That is what underpins everything to me. And so for me, like I do track my ovulation for fertility planning purposes, we're not quite ready to have a family. I've been doing that for I don't even know how long years and years and that's been amazing. But I know the moment that I ovulate not because I'm checking all of the physical signs, but because I feel it, I actually know what's happening in my body, then I double check with all of those other things to just make sure that we don't want any any accidents. But that's one of the things it's like, the more you understand, and you have that that really truly deeply intimate relationship with your own body, the more you know exactly what you need in the moment. And so I think somatic work is really powerful in that because it helps you reconnect to the wisdom of your own body and understand how to listen to it. I think that's one of the things that that few people understand is we don't actually even know how to speak the same language as our bodies especially as women because we're taught that we are to beat our body and make it our slave to just push through it and grind it out and hustle and all of these things which quite As the body messages until it gets louder and louder and louder and louder and louder in the form of some kind of a disease, for us to actually take notice and be like, Oh, really sorry, I guess I've been doing too much. And for most women that starts with burnout, where it's like your body, the only way your body can communicate to you at that point, is through pain or total shutdown. And so it's like, I'm gonna make you hurt until you actually listen to me. And you take notice, and you stop doing what you're doing. That's harming me. So I'm a huge believer in somatic work and understanding just the basics of your biology through like, really learning the language like okay, what does it mean to have a follicular phase? What what how does that feel in my body? What types of energy does that mean I'm going to have, but then realizing that your situation, your nervous system, just events in your month can shift that you know, your actual ovulation and get that which can bump your period. So you have to be able to stay up to date on your body. And really, the only way to do that is through listening to your body. So yeah, I love what you said about like checking in every single day and being like, what does my body actually want today there and I that was my experience, even when I was healing, from not being able to eat anything. I was obsessed with pears. And I was like, Why do I love pears so much what is going on. And that's like, all I wanted to eat. Later on down the road, I find out that pairs are really, really healing for the liver and gallbladder. And I was like, Oh, that makes so much sense. And that happens over and over and over. But it takes listening to the body for your body to be like, I know what I need to heal, I already know it's already written into my body, I just need you to shut up for a second listen. So that's really what I like to teach people is how to listen to it, how to accept it, and then how to act on it from that point,
Sheree 21:38
that's so powerful, like you say, really listening to your body. And, you know, to coin a term of intuition, I think has been so overlooked. So over support over suppressed in our society. And it's, you know, it was done as done. But I think as women we've been taught to shut it off and to shut it out. And even as we think about resourcing ourselves with our bodies, we give out power to the medical system, we give up how outside of ourselves, we even do it with coaches and that sort of thing. And I've been guilty of it being the coach and also being the one in the position receiving the feedback where you kind of just want someone to take care of it and sort it out for you because you're sick of being in the pain. But you really shut down that intuitive knowing of, you know, I think about the amount of times I asked my doctor, you show the pillars, okay, you show the pillars, okay? You sure it's fine for me to be honest. And it's like, it was shutting down my natural feminine cycle, it was shutting down my connection to my body. And so when you talk about that, listening to your body and listen to yourself, one of the biggest problems that I see with my clients, and I imagine, you know, it's the same for both of you. Women are so disconnected from their own bodies, even the idea of listening and trapped, even trusting it, that's almost a whole nother conversation. But how do you lean into that intuitive state? How do you lean into, obviously, through, like you've mentioned, somatic work, but how do you even begin that process? Because there'll be a lot of woman listening going, I want I'm hating my body and hating where it's at. And so I don't even know how to listen anymore? Because I've shut it down for so long.
Speaker 1 23:21
Yeah, yeah. So that's where I do like the cycle thinking approach to kind of get a foot in the door of the analytical mind. So most women who are shut down from their body, and they don't know how to reconnect with their body, it's because they are so heavily in their analytical mind, which is like the masculine, right? It's very much it's that like, five to 7% of the brain that is like analyzing, and it's our conscious efforts. That is like, we need the science, I need to know all of the facts, the data that right, it's like, very rigid. So the cycle thinking structure is an amazing way to get a foot in the door of that part of your brain. And then as you learn it, you can kind of wean yourself off. So I love that structure for women who are just starting out so that they can start to understand, okay, so you know how right before you start your period, you feel really grumpy. And all of the questions from the kids make you mad, and you feel like you need your husband to leave the house for three days, and every little speck of dust drives you crazy. That's because this this and this is happening in your body. And so it's okay, if that happens, and you can actually plan for it so that you don't rip your husband's head off. Sounds great, doesn't it? And then the husbands are like, Thank you, right? So it's a really good way to give them practical application right away, but then we weave in Okay, so now did you know that that the hemispheres of the brain are really closely connected in that stage? So from a spiritual perspective, all that subconscious stuff is coming up in order to be processed and released the same way that your body is getting ready to do this beautiful purge and cleanse so you can actually work with the stuff that's coming up. So so now we can go okay, you're getting really angry. Let's work with that anger. So there's you can kind of step like step it up. Start with, Okay, here's the physical response. Here's the science around it, this is what the hormones are doing. And then you can get kind of more into the gray area that our analytical minds are really scared of it first, which totally makes sense, like, we come from a science world, like the western world is very much based on science. And so it's normal for that to, that was me, I'm like, I am all about bridging the science, science and spirituality, because I'm like, okay, but if science doesn't back it up, and what I've learned is that science will never catch up with the female biology, it just won't, because we just now in the last 10 years have dubbed the ingredient for them. We just now figured that out. And we're just now figuring out like, oh, actually, the meridians that we talked about in Chinese medicine, there's actually a ton of science around that. Now we know that your body actually transfers light from one place to another in your body, and we have science around it. So the more you get into this, the more you're like, oh, science isn't that like, it's not that smart. And so we can kind of let go of putting science on a pedestal, and we can really lean into our body's own wisdom. And realize that like your body is so much more ancient and more wise than science gives it credit for. And that's where you get to really take back your authority and your power. But it doesn't make sense that we have to kind of start with some science, some of those like, yeah, here's what your body is doing. This is what the hormones are doing. This is what we can read on lab tests, this feels much safer. And then as and that's again, masculine, it's the protector, that's like, No, you have to tell me that this will work. And then as we start to be like, Okay, so now do you see that this all makes sense, then the body, the women really are able to like, relax and lean back into their feminine and then the intuition gets turned back online?
Christa 26:41
I think it's been really enlightening to be like, Oh, that's what's going on. Because I think particularly we're busy, you know, goal driven people, women, you don't pause and you don't listen to your body, because you're just not making time to be quiet with your body. And so if you could, could you like, I know, we could spend an entire hour on the actual 28 day cycle. But if you could just kind of summarize the for, you know, the four weeks and what, briefly, because I think sharing that with people, the AHA will come on, like, Oh, my God, that's totally like, I do feel that my husband is better looking week, week three. Yeah, I do feel more social and energetic week three, you know, I mean, things like that. I think summarizing it, the best way that you can is might be helpful for people listening to at least get a taste of what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 27:33
Yeah. Oh, for sure. Okay, so the easiest way to remember is you go through all four seasons, just like nature does, you just go through them every single month. So I always start with winter. So winter is when you're bleeding, I'm not going to do like, it's this amount of days, because every woman right now is so different. But you start with your period, right? That's phase one. And that's your winter, that's when you're much more introspective, your energy is all come back inward. It's all like you're all in your own inner world, you probably don't have a ton of energy for the external world, you probably don't have heightened communication skills, it's probably a little bit rougher. And that gives you you have a pretty heightened attention to detail. But you're going to be very reflective, you're looking into the past like okay, what went well, you might want to project into the future. What do I want to bring into the future? What do I want to create, it's very reflective and introspective. So that's winter. And like low energy, low libido, warming foods, like you want to treat it like a winter, you want to warm yourself up, and you want to give yourself some space and some peace, then you move into your follicular phase. And that is like your spring. And so this is when energy starts to build back up. For every woman, it's a little bit different, I usually start to feel that follicular spring energy like around day three, day four, but for every woman like some women are like, I don't feel it. So day seven totally depends. So spring energy and you think about it like spring, it's like those new little tender blossoms that are starting to come out of layout of the ground, they're starting to emerge. But it's also a little bit unpredictable. So you it's a transition season between your winter and your summer. So that's where you might have kind of an ebb and flow of energy. So one day you might feel really enthusiastic and like I want to go hang out with my girlfriends. And then the next day like I may have overdone it and I kind of want to stay close to home again. So again, it's you want to give yourself lots of permission to be in that flow. But this is like you're building up to the event of ovulation and so you have this creative energy so this is a really good time to start brainstorming to start acting on some of your creative inspirations that maybe you had in your menstrual phase, you probably are going to your brain is going to be going quite a bit this is a good time your your because your energy is starting to increase you might want to do a little bit more workout you might be a little bit more inclined to do things like hit workouts you can tolerate because of the way your digestion work works your you can tolerate more like raw fruits and vegetables were in your menstrual phase your digestion is like no please don't give me that. You can tolerate a little bit more of that like smoothies and things like that. So again, transition phase more springlike energy, then you hit ovulation so ovulation is a one day event, but the energy of ovulation can last like three to five days. So you This is like the culmination of your period. This is the peak and then your menstruation is like your Valley. So that peak is you have super heightened communication skills. Your body is literally like Okay, give me a baby. And so it's in this beautiful receivership, you are biologically primed to attract a mate so your eyes are dilated, your voice is lower, your skin is plumper. Again, like your voice is more communicative, you are literally like come to me, they've done studies where like women who are in bars who are ovulating, they're a certain percentage more likely to go home with a guy because they're ovulating and men find them more attractive. So this is like do your photo shoots, do your video stuff, get on Instagram live like that is the time to maximize those that energy. So again, that's like summer, so everything is just prime and ready and you're just feeling juicy and amazing and magnetic. Then you move into your luteal phase. And your luteal phase is your longest phase. It's typically about two weeks, and it's kind of split into like two different sections. So the first half of your luteal phase is you probably are still coming down from that Oculus very high. So you probably are still pretty communicative. You want to go hang out with people like you're a lot more bouncy and energetic. You can tolerate hit workouts you can tolerate like really hitting your PRs, your digestion is really strong. But as you get further and further into that luteal phase, you start to enter into an inner autumn. And so that's where the energy is like, Okay, we've been out now we're gonna come back in and it starts to withdraw and come back into yourself. And so again, introspection starts to be more heightened. But what's cool about this phase, and I personally love it, it's the most masculine phase. So you have the most drive to get structured things done. And so like I do the majority of my business in my luteal phase in the two weeks of my luteal phase, and then I'm like hands off on my business the rest of the month for the most part. So you can really maximize a ton in your luteal phase. And you have a heightened attention to detail and introspection. So you can do all of your copywriting. You can do your bookkeeping, all of those quieter tasks that take a lot of focus, you are primed for that in your luteal phase. But because of that attention, that heightened attention to detail your senses are all turned up to so you're like your actual hearing your taste your touch. That's why like, Oh, I feel uncomfortable. And like bla, all of the kids are making noise and my husband won't stop asking me questions. And like it feels you get more agitated more easily because your senses are heightened. And so really prioritizing peace. Again, autumn, if you think of like fall vibes. It's like, okay, well, I'm a cozy drink. And I want my cozy blanket. And I kind of want to just like, look out the window. And like, think about things in journal, that's more the vibe. So you want to lean into that and know that that's when you can really get a lot done in your business. But again, it's a transition phase. So the energy that you have, there might not be superduper predictable, but you can guess that, you're probably going to start to come back inward and really want more quiet space. Prioritizing peace, like getting a babysitter for the kiddos, making sure you have lots of space around you not feeling like you're claustrophobic. That's when I like to detail clean my home, that's when I like to wrap up everything from the month, make sure that all of my projects are done so that I can really truly rest in my winter phase. Because it kind of acts this inner autumn acts kind of like the third trimester, like a nesting phase for a pregnant mother, very similar energy. So your body is like, I'm going to prepare everything that I can so that I have this huge energy like drop, that's going to happen, I need to make sure that I'm ready for that. And so it gives you this really specific unique energy surge in order to resolve everything and get it wrapped up so that you can rest. So it's there's like they all work together. And they work beautifully. And when you start to honor that, that's how you get a sustainable cycle of energy. And you don't feel like you're hitting burnout over and over and over and over. It's
Sheree 33:42
so beautiful. And it's just amazing how intertwined our bodies are with nature. Right. I remember when I first learned about the cycles thinking and then the fact that they were linked with the seasons, that was the aha moment for me, realizing that, you know, the winter is that Netflix and chill kind of time, where you're not doing the the fun part of the Netflix and chill. You're really just wanting to watch Netflix and chill out. Yeah. So I think it's a really beautiful way you describe that to our listeners. And I know, so many of the women in our community are high performance individuals. And you have touched on as you went through some of those phases, how that can be applicable to business, how you can apply it to your life. And I'm wondering if someone is sitting here going, Okay, this sounds awesome, but they're very, you know, like I was and you can very easily lean into when you're running your own business or you are a high performing human, you're living your masculine. So I'm gonna make a list of all of the things like this is what I did. When I was like, This is what I do on my own luteal phase, which is my audience. And you you can end up making this beautiful feminine process like you say it's super, super masculine. And so if someone's listening to Okay, where do I start and how do I stay? A in my feminine, like, you know, one thing I will quite often do is get people to do it with their workouts because it feels a little bit less stressful in terms of okay, let's just pick one area of your life we're going to focus on is there anything in particular you recommend for people that are really wanting to lean into that softness, lean into the ebbs and flows of this cycle? More?
Speaker 1 35:22
Yeah. So one of the things I love to remind women of is that the masculine is about what you do, the feminine is about who you are. So the feminine has to come from energy. So you can do the things in a masculine way or in a feminine way. So it's not about not doing tasks. That's one of the things that really scared me when I first wasn't getting into this was I was like, Well, does that mean that I just have to like, be the barley babe, and just like sit on it, you know, I can't do that. That's not me. I like to work, I liked it, like, get dirt underneath my fingernails, I like to grind it out that that brings me life that supports me. So that freaked me out at first. And that's where understanding that you as a woman, women are hard as workers, like we get stuff done. It's not about not doing things, it's about the come from energy. And it's about not spiking your cortisol in your journal and your testosterone. And like relying on that which ultimately taxes your adrenals, right, like, we know all of the ways that it messes with the female biology. So it's about the come from energy. So there's a difference between doing the dishes in your masculine, where you're just grinding it out, and your teeth are clenched. And you're just like, you know, but clench, like everything, you're just like, ah, and you're just like, I'm just gonna get this done as efficiently as possible that's doing it from your masculine, there's nothing wrong with that inherently. Except that that's that is spiking all of those things in your body that you don't need as a woman coming to that same task in your feminine, looks like maybe lighting a candle throwing a podcast on or just being like letting your brain just go and feeling the warmth of the water going over your hands. And like there's a difference in the way that you you come from something in order to do a task. And that's the difference between the masculine and the feminine. Now from the cycle. So this is where it that's the energy, right? The biology for that is if you want to get into cycle thinking, just start with the thing that's most exciting to you is that fitness is that diet is that sex and intimacy is that like, what, what for you is the area that you would like to start in and just start there, I usually tell women non negotiable, just set aside one day a month to rest. And that doesn't mean not doing anything. For some women, it does for me when I was first like when I after I hit burnout, and I was healing, I rested a lot more and that looked like three hour naps in the middle of the day. And I designed my business to allow for that. And that's that's like a next level kind of situation. But for most women, I'm like at least give yourself more space, one day out of the month when you're menstruating day one, day two or day three, ideally day one, because that's when your energy is the lowest just set aside that day to be more of a sacred day for you. And maybe that looks like going and getting a massage, if you are able to do that maybe that just looks like having somebody come and grab the kids. Maybe that just looks like having no meetings that day. And it's only computer work, you know, if you've got a business, so it gets to work for whoever and in whatever way is going to work for you. It doesn't have to be again, that's where if you're like I have to do all of the things, stop everything, just stop that right now. Because that's your masculine. And just go with what feels most lit up to you, and see how that works. And that's nuanced. And so that can scare some women, when it's like I can't just trust myself to make a decision. So if that's you, that's what I recommend, okay, just take one day out of the month to rest and be very consistent with it. Because what that signals to your body is that there is rest coming. And so it can be like, okay, so I can work and work and work. But I know there's an end point, and it gives your body a chance to reset. If you if that's all you do, give yourself two or three days out of the month. If that is the only thing you do for your female biology, just give yourself two or three days out of the month to like not have meetings and just lay low, that will change your health. Just that all by itself.
Christa 39:00
I think it's really interesting. Like growing up, I thought, Oh, my family had anxiety. So I have anxiety, oh, I've got heart palpitations and all of these things and realizing like Well, it's because I'm just running myself ragged. You know, like, when you wake up to that. It's like, oh, it's just a symptom of something that we get to be aware of. It's not that Oh, my family had anxiety. So now I just need to go on the antidepressant, whatever, maybe maybe for a period of time while you're healing, but it's so empowering to know that I'm not broken. My brain is not broken. It's you've got to sit back and for me personally tapping into the cycles thinking was most tangible in the gym. Now I'm one likes to workout. I also like to eat but I like to workout. So that is a consistent thing in my life. And so it was very tangible for me to start applying it and when I've applied it somewhere that day in the gym that I know Oh remember you're on a walk day. We're not doing that. Today, because your period just started, so we're walking today. And that also means it's okay that I don't have a lot of energy to put forth in other areas of my life. And I think where women get frustrated is when they're not aware, then they get more angry with themselves more frustrated with where they feel energetically, and it's just a natural thing. But when you're not even aware of it, like I personally was not for years, then you're just itself beat up. And then you're trying to grow through these things, which really is more difficult on the adrenal glands on the on the whole physiological makeup of your body. So I liked that you got that out in seasons too, because I think it's gonna help people remember easier, the seasons and how it's reflected in your body and becoming aware, like you said, choose one area of your life that makes it easy for you to be like, Oh, wait, if I'm not feeling my best where I'm at in my cycle.
Speaker 1 40:50
Yeah. And it's all about awareness. And understanding, too, that you're again, this is why I go back to Cymatics is in like anxiety. That's all information for you. And that's a deep, subconscious response. I had panic attacks for years and years and years and years, that would loop on hours, like I would be like eight hours in with panic attacks, that would just loop because I was ignoring so much of my own body and so much of my own insight and wisdom, that the panic attack was the last ditch effort of my body to be like, get, like pay attention, I need you to listen, when I started working that stuff. somatically like I haven't had a panic attack in eight years. And it just was overnight it stopped because I worked at somatically. So that's a big piece of it, too, is yes, there's a hormonal stuff, but the body responds to the mind. The it's it's the subconscious mind influences the conscious brain and your thoughts, your thoughts influence your and your emotions. And then your emotions influence your body. And then it's a cycle and it goes back through. So when you've got a physical symptom in the body, guaranteed, it's psychosomatic, whether that's anger, whether that's thyroid issues, whether that's weight, it's guaranteed something that's going on in this, it's the psychosomatic connection. And so working in that way, is so, so important. And I feel like cycle thinking starts to give you insight as to what's going on, it gives you like that first, again, like foot in the door for your body specifically, why is it that you have anxiety at this part of the month versus things versus, you know, like, anger, depression at this point of the month? What makes that what is that for you? What's happening is that A is that a behavior that you saw modeled to you growing up, and so you thought that that was safe, because these are all this is all information of your body being like, I'm trying to keep you safe, it's protector, it is not a bad thing, anger, postpartum depression, anxiety, they're not bad things. It's literally information, and its protector ship over are the sacredness of us, those are all the masculine energies in our body. Super important. So it's all again, it all kind of like, weaves in and out and talks to each other. So I just feel like cycle thinking is like, let's start here, this is the easiest place to start. And then as you start to tune into your body, you will start to be like, Oh, my gosh, okay, so I'm getting angry, every single time, you know, my period rolls around, because I'm realizing that I don't feel support. And that's because that's what I saw my dad model to my mom. And then I realized that my mom had a ton of resentment, and then that, you know, like, it's crazy. And instead of it being then okay, I have depression. It's like, I'm feeling sad. I have sadness here. And I need to speak to it. And I need to accept it. And I need to let that integrate so that it's not taking dominion over my life. So it's like this, it gets even bigger. It's crazy.
Sheree 43:27
It's amazing. Once you turn that stone, right, how much that's to come out of the woods, and you're like, wow, I didn't realize like the personal growth journey, the personal development. And I know for a lot of listeners, even the word somatic can be new and can be even not even misunderstood. But like, what is this somatic mean? Because there's so many different layers to it. And I think, because like we talked about earlier, there's such a disconnect from our body. I know a lot of the times when you even just get people to take a few deep breaths and drop into their heart space. Sometimes the tears well up, sometimes that xiety, or the burnout, or the over productivity that leaves us stuck in our masculine energy has been trying to suppress for so long, all these emotions, because like, it's so much easier to just keep going and keep going keep going until burnout strikes, right? Not feel to not have to deal with some of those emotions, whether it's because we've been told that it's weak to feel them or whether it's too whipping too much or too loud, without enough. And so when we're starting this somatic journey, or even looking at re reconnecting into our body, like, what, what does somatic work? And we've talked about the subconscious mind and how that impacts our conscious mind our thoughts and emotions, but aside from things like breathwork, which people may be familiar with them is obviously different types of that. What other type of somatic work or what is somatic work for people who aren't aware Hmm, yeah, so
Speaker 1 45:01
the word Cymatics is literally it's this. It's from the Greek word Soma, which just means the living body and its wholeness. So anytime we're talking about Cymatics, we're talking about looking at the body from a whole person perspective. So we're looking at, I was taught through a listening briga, she has a process called Sambu. And so we're talking about S stands for somatic E stands for emotional and stands for mindset. Yeah, emotional mindset, B is behavioral, and then you is unconscious. So the body, the human experience, encapsulates all of those things. So as a somatic coach, depending on the person, depending on their experience, depending on what they're coming to me for, we can come in at any one of those places, in order to start reworking those deep seated beliefs, patterns and behaviors. So for some people, like for me, when I first started working with somatic work, I did not like going into like the actual Cymatics, like the body, I was like, no, no, that does not feel safe, I'm not going there. So I started with mental and emotional, once I got the hang of that, and I started to feel more trust, then I was able to go more into the Cymatics. And now I'm like I can, you know, hit it from any direction. So depending on what my clients need, and where they're coming from, I hit it from a different angle, because we never push the body back past its own evolution. This is one of the things that I hate about detoxes and talk therapy and things like that is oftentimes it puts the body into a state of fight or flight, and you end up re traumatizing the body because either you're reliving it by verbally processing it, or you're forcing the body to detox when it's not ready, either the you know, the detox pathways aren't open, or there's a whole variety of things that can happen with that. So I don't ever recommend that without lots and lots of support around it. And that's not to say like talk therapy is bad. But from my perspective, I love looking at it from this this psychosomatic connection. And so it looks like a whole lot of different things that can look like breath work that can look like meditation that can look like really, most of my work is tuning into the felt sensation in the body. And asking very specific questions to insight the wisdom that way and then reworking the subconscious patterns. So NLP does that I'm certified in NLP, it just depends on each person. And like you said, breathwork is a version of it. There's different body like movement programs, and that's also Cymatics. So there's, it's a really big, broad term, and everybody uses it a little bit differently. So I kind of combine everything and put it into one experience and work with that person and help them like come at it from whatever angle is going to work best for them in their experience. Does that answer your question? Yeah, beautifully.
Christa 47:33
I think it is interesting how some people are more comfortable with certain avenues into the deeper issue. But I ultimately think it's so great when you can finally just get into the body and feel that emotion. Where does it live in your body? What does that feeling look like? And I even use that with my kids who are dealing with anxiety. Okay, great. What does that anxiety feel like in your body? Yeah, yeah, just allowing that sensation in the body to speak. And I think it does two things, you get clarity on what's actually going on. But it also creates a sense of separation between me and this entity. So I, you know, like, anxiety feels like all consuming. It's not you that your experience anxiety. I think when you can tap into where it lives in your body. It really does. How are you a bit that it's a separate entity from you? Which is Yeah, yeah, people don't stay in. Yeah,
Speaker 1 48:25
exactly. When we identify it, that's when we're stuck with it. Versus like, I I'm anxious is like I have it, it's me, it's part of me versus I anxiety is here. That alone, that verbiage. Change will shift it just because it's like, oh, anxiety is here. And it's like, okay, I can like I can accept and I can hold the anxiety and I can say it's okay. It's okay that you're here. What do you need to tell me? Right? That's a lot of the conversations. It's like, what do you need to tell me? What do you need to kind of get off of your chest? Right? We we ask questions like that. And then anxiety has a chance to speak and then it's like, okay, I feel better. Now. I'm gonna go hang out somewhere else. Like, you're right. It's like creating that space between the experience and who you are as a human being. That's so important. I love that you do that with kids. It's one of the, it's so good, because especially since kids don't often have the language to be able to describe what's going on. It's like, okay, where do you feel it in your body? What does it look like? Is it pokey? Is it soft? Is it moving? Is it still what is it like to have a color? And that's such a good way to like, understand it get familiar with it, because a lot of it is the nervous system fears the unknown, right? Anything that the nervous system thinks is unfamiliar, it will automatically tag as unsafe. So something in our bodies that feels unfamiliar, we're going to be like, Oh my gosh, this is scary. And we're automatically going to go into freakout mode, whereas if we can start to understand it and get familiar with it, it softens that sensation and it creates more safety and then we can actually look at it objectively rather than identifying with it. So yeah, it's so good. I love that.
Christa 49:53
Just kind of wrap it up with how can people find you and also share with our audience what capacity work with people cuz you've mentioned business. You've you mentioned Cymatics. Like, I'm really curious, do different kinds of ways that people work with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1 50:07
so I'm Rosewood woman pretty much everywhere, Instagram, rosewood woman.com. And it's w o m a n not women, woman. So yeah, Instagram, and Facebook and website, it's all Rosewood woman. And right now I have two primary offerings. So I have one to one business coaching, essentially, it's called the gentle business Jumpstart. And that's how you start or scale your feminine focus business. So we go through everything from your branding and marketing and cyclical systems, seasonal business, your vision cast casting, but we do it all from a feminine place. So you get free access to my cycle thinking course. So you can start to learn all of that. So that's kind of like the criminal crime that's like my, my primary offering. And within that you also get somatic work. So depending on what's coming up in the session, we pair the masculine strategy and systems with the feminine soul work. So we do the Cymatics, we do the mindset, we do the behavioral, we also do the strategy. And we actually help you implement and take action on your business so that you can scale it sustainably without the burnout junk. So that's, that's my primary guy. And then I also offer one on one somatic coaching for any woman who's looking to reengage in her own life and find purpose. And so that is heavily somatic work. And I work with women in three to six month packages, and totally depends on the woman and what they're coming to me for. So I have a lot of mamas, I have a lot of business owners who are like I have the business setup. But my capacity to hold the goals that I have, is not there, like I'm scared to actually reach the goals that I'm setting for myself, because my capacity isn't ready to actually hold it. my nervous system can't handle it yet. So we do a lot of expansion and a lot of capacity enhancement that way. So those are my two primary guys. And then I do have a cycle thinking course that I'm revamping and changing where I'm putting that so it's kind of on hold right now. But that'll come in a couple of months as
Sheree 51:50
well. eautiful I have just loved this conversation and loved picking your brain. It's a topic that you know, I think both of us having gone through such similar journeys in the sense that you know, so prone to burnout, high achieving, and I'm sure a lot of people are able to relate with everything that you've shared and hopefully open their mind to what is actually possible. And I think like we talked about with understanding our hormones, even from like the most basic level to now understanding that there's a way you can live and be and operate from in such a beautiful flow state. It's really, really powerful. So we just appreciate your time so much beer, then you'll be able to find all the bits details in the show notes as well. And if you do have any questions, I'm sure your DMS are open to chat more as well to support you. So thank you so much for your time.
Unknown Speaker 52:36
Thank you so much for having me. It was fine. You guys ask great questions.
Unknown Speaker 52:38
Beautiful. Take care. Bye bye
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